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    Arrow World Rugby U20 Championship 2019 in Argentina

    That time of year again, with more online Rugby available than one can watch in any given day.

    Whether you prefer Full Match replays: (of shock results, for example )


    or are simply happy with WR Video Hub’s highlight reels for a summary at the end of the day.

    I like the second Irish try, when deep in-goal England scrumhalf lets the ball at the back of the «*ruck*» briefly to survey his options. Only it’s not a ruck is it, so no offside lines and anybody can touch it down. Hawkeye technology looks great.

    I recall Conor Murray’s not too dissimilar effort in Senior rugby, recently enough to be fresh on everyone’s memories. (You’d have thought anyways.) England’s discipline letting them down, with an off the ball incident leading to a Red Card, sealing their fate.
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    Lightbulb Re: World Rugby U20 Championship 2019 in Argentina

    An interesting feature of the WR disciplinary page is this Day 1 HIGH RISK CONTACT TECHNIQUE WARNINGS

    The following players received High Risk Contact Technique Warnings arising from match-day one under the trial in operation at the World Rugby U20 Championship 2019 with respect to upright tackles which result in contact with an opponent’s head:

    Santiago Chocobares (Argentina No.12)
    Lachlan Lonergan (Australia No.2)
    Julien Delbois (France No.12)
    Jonathan Wren (Ireland No.11)
    Ronan Watters (Ireland No.20)
    James Mollentze (South Africa No.10)

    Coaches now have the opportunity to review the player’s tackling technique to the satisfaction of the Citing Commissioner in order to have the first warning removed from the players’ records. Two Technique Warnings in the tournament will result in a one-match suspension.
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    This player tracking is cool. Although the Sevens thread has the same with player speeds, which is even cooler.
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    Thumbs up Re: World Rugby U20 Championship 2019 in Argentina

    Here’s another interesting one from the disciplinary page.
    Any combination of three yellow cards or warnings in the tournament will require the player to appear at a disciplinary hearing.
    Is this new?
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    Default Re: World Rugby U20 Championship 2019 in Argentina

    Quote Originally Posted by L'irlandais View Post
    An interesting feature of the WR disciplinary page is this Day 1 HIGH RISK CONTACT TECHNIQUE WARNINGS

    The following players received High Risk Contact Technique Warnings arising from match-day one under the trial in operation at the World Rugby U20 Championship 2019 with respect to upright tackles which result in contact with an opponent’s head:

    Santiago Chocobares (Argentina No.12)
    Lachlan Lonergan (Australia No.2)
    Julien Delbois (France No.12)
    Jonathan Wren (Ireland No.11)
    Ronan Watters (Ireland No.20)
    James Mollentze (South Africa No.10)

    Coaches now have the opportunity to review the player’s tackling technique to the satisfaction of the Citing Commissioner in order to have the first warning removed from the players’ records. Two Technique Warnings in the tournament will result in a one-match suspension.
    Good job it doesn't apply to Elite Senior Rugby - Leigh Halfpenny would spend half his life at the tribunals, in between his visits to the Neurology Specialist and the MRI Scanner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by L'irlandais View Post
    Here’s another interesting one from the disciplinary page.
    Any combination of three yellow cards or warnings in the tournament will require the player to appear at a disciplinary hearing.
    Is this new?
    It occurs at RFU Levels 1-4: 3 YCs in a season leads to a Disciplinary Panel. Entry Point sanction is 1-3 weeks suspension. Occurred 8 times last season (3 for the same club - Preston Grasshoppers!).
    Be reasonable - do it my way.

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    Question Re: World Rugby U20 Championship 2019 in Argentina

    Another one from the WR U20 Disciplinary .
    England centre Cameron Redpath appeared at a hearing before an independent World Rugby Disciplinary Committee chaired by Alan Hudson (Canada) along with John Langford (former Australia player) and Sarah Smith (former Scotland player) in Rosario on 19 June, 2019 having been cited by Citing Commissioner Enrique Cazenave (Argentina) for biting Ireland hooker Dylan Tierney-Martin in breach of Law 9.12 in their match at the World Rugby U20 Championship in Rosario, Argentina, on 17 June, 2019.

    Redpath accepted the citing. The Disciplinary Committee received evidence from Redpath, Tierney-Martin, the Ireland team doctor and the referee as well as submissions on behalf of the player in relation to the entry point. The Disciplinary Committee considered that this was a low-end breach of Law 9.12 which carries a 12-week entry point. The Disciplinary Committee considered the player’s previously clean record, early acceptance of his conduct, apology, youth and inexperience to reduce the sanction by the maximum 50 per cent to six weeks.

    Redpath is suspended from Saturday’s final round at the World Rugby U20 Championship until after Sale’s Premiership Cup fixture on 21 September, 2019.
    Doesn’t a six week ban, which runs over the off season make a joke of the disciplinary system ?
    I feel to punish the player for his wrongdoing it needs to be a ban for a certain number of matches. By allowing him to play in his club’s next game, is no punishment at all. Also a player who bites the opposition hooker’s ear, only has a clean sheet because he was never caught before, and not because he has never done that sort of thing before. Reducing by 50% is also making a farce out of entry levels.

    If he bite somebody’s ear on a public street he would mostly likely go to prison for ABH, Assault occasioning actual bodily harm (a maximum of 5 years) rather than Common Assault or Assault By Beating (Maximum 6 months). If it is unacceptable in society we should not be encouraging it on the field of play.
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    Default Re: World Rugby U20 Championship 2019 in Argentina

    Check your math, I think. That six weeks covers now, and the end of August and September. He's not getting credit for July.

    Is 6 weeks appropriate? No details about the case so can't comment, but the methodology is right according to Regulation 17.
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    Default Re: World Rugby U20 Championship 2019 in Argentina

    Quote Originally Posted by L'irlandais View Post
    Another one from the WR U20 Disciplinary .
    England centre Cameron Redpath appeared at a hearing before an independent World Rugby Disciplinary Committee chaired by Alan Hudson (Canada) along with John Langford (former Australia player) and Sarah Smith (former Scotland player) in Rosario on 19 June, 2019 having been cited by Citing Commissioner Enrique Cazenave (Argentina) for biting Ireland hooker Dylan Tierney-Martin in breach of Law 9.12 in their match at the World Rugby U20 Championship in Rosario, Argentina, on 17 June, 2019.

    Redpath accepted the citing. The Disciplinary Committee received evidence from Redpath, Tierney-Martin, the Ireland team doctor and the referee as well as submissions on behalf of the player in relation to the entry point. The Disciplinary Committee considered that this was a low-end breach of Law 9.12 which carries a 12-week entry point. The Disciplinary Committee considered the player’s previously clean record, early acceptance of his conduct, apology, youth and inexperience to reduce the sanction by the maximum 50 per cent to six weeks.

    Redpath is suspended from Saturday’s final round at the World Rugby U20 Championship until after Sale’s Premiership Cup fixture on 21 September, 2019.
    Doesn’t a six week ban, which runs over the off season make a joke of the disciplinary system ?
    I feel to punish the player for his wrongdoing it needs to be a ban for a certain number of matches. By allowing him to play in his club’s next game, is no punishment at all. Also a player who bites the opposition hooker’s ear, only has a clean sheet because he was never caught before, and not because he has never done that sort of thing before. Reducing by 50% is also making a farce out of entry levels.

    If he bite somebody’s ear on a public street he would mostly likely go to prison for ABH, Assault occasioning actual bodily harm (a maximum of 5 years) rather than Common Assault or Assault By Beating (Maximum 6 months). If it is unacceptable in society we should not be encouraging it on the field of play.
    As i see it Redpath is suspended for 3 months - until after 21 Sept, and in all of these decisions they do seem to have been quite careful to phrase the suspensions to have an effect on games. As for the reduction in sanctions, remember this is U20 and many of these players have not been playing professionally for many years and again it seems a common reduction for youth and in-experience. Does nto seem to unreasonable to me - they are young players possibly caught up in the excitement of an international match for the first or second time?

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    Setting dates after accounting for known planned fixtures prevents a club from organising extra friendlies to get the ban over sooner (if set in terms of number of matches missed).
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