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    Default Re: Line out plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Arabcheif View Post
    Hi Guys, I understand that if they re-join the line they're fine. But from what they were practising they stepped out (towards their DBL), but didn't step back into the line.

    Yes players can move before the ball is thrown as long as they're back in the line for the throw but not after/during the throw?
    So you only need to tweak the move a tiny bit to make it legal. Just have the 1 and 2 slide back into the line.

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    Default Re: Line out plan

    AIUI, before the ball is thrown in, LO players can swap positions with each other, and the receiver. They need to have the same number in the line at the end of the swapping.

    After the ball is thrown in, receivers can join the line without someone moving out, and LO players can leave the line to peal off and receive the ball, or to dummy peal off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thepercy View Post
    So you only need to tweak the move a tiny bit to make it legal. Just have the 1 and 2 slide back into the line.
    No because once the ball is thrown you can't change places, you can only leave the line to get into position to catch ball (not to create a diversion)

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    Quote Originally Posted by crossref View Post
    No because once the ball is thrown you can't change places, you can only leave the line to get into position to catch ball (not to create a diversion)
    The swapping places happens before the ball is thrown, no?

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    Default Re: Line out plan

    Quote Originally Posted by thepercy View Post
    The swapping places happens before the ball is thrown, no?
    Well that would be ok, but

    Quote Originally Posted by Arabcheif View Post
    The impression I got was that as they stepped out the ball would be thrown to position 3 moving toward the ball. I don't think there would be enough time for them to slide back into the line.
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    It's as the ball is thrown, not before
    And they never swap places (they run off to create a diversion)

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    Default Re: Line out plan

    From this it seems to me that 1 & 2 were peeling - in a position to receive the ball - but the ball does not com back to them. As long as they remain in motion and in the 10x10 space behind the lineout, the are OK for me. That 3 decided not to pass to 1 or 2, but to try and rund round the front is OK for me as long as the ball got to the 5m line.

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    Default Re: Line out plan

    well it seems to me the diversion is action within the lineout - to draw attention to the centre of the lineout rather than the front... as opposed to making it look as if they are going to attack in the centres say.

    But it still comes down to the point I made above - once "we" permit movement to receive the ball, then all bets are off in effect given the highly dynamic nature of the lineout otherwise, and the potential for cock up on top of that.

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    Default Re: Line out plan

    Quote Originally Posted by crossref View Post
    No because once the ball is thrown you can't change places
    Law reference?

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    Default Re: Line out plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Phil E View Post
    Law reference?

    • Once the lineout has commenced, any player in the lineout may:
      • Compete for possession of the ball.
      • Catch or deflect the ball. A jumper may catch or deflect the ball with the outside arm only if they have both hands above their head.Sanction:Free-kick.
      • Lift or support a player from the same team. Players who support or lift a team-mate must lower the player to the ground safely as soon as the ball is won by a player of either team. Sanction: Free-kick.
      • Leave the lineout so as to be in a position to receive the ball, provided they remain within 10 metres of the mark of touch and they keep moving until the lineout is over. Sanction: Free-kick.
      • Grasp and bring an opponent in possession of the ball to ground, provided that the player is not in the air. Sanction: Penalty.



    Argument being that it tells you what you can do (therefore if not listed you can't do it)?
    Last edited by Flish; 1 Week Ago at 10:11.

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    Default Re: Line out plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Phil E View Post
    Law reference?
    You cannot leave a line out 18.7.a

    But there are two exceptions

    Before the ball is thrown you can leave the lineout to change places 18.17.a

    After the ball is thrown you can leave the lineout to peel 18.28.d
    Last edited by crossref; 1 Week Ago at 10:11.

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