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    Default Re: Control , again .. Leicester v Gloucester

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinky View Post
    Spoke to a senior referee and he said there has been a change of emphasis
    BINGO !
    Exactly as I inferred.

    Well done crossref, I hear you say.

    It was obvious to me that NO on that podcast was relaying a new directive .. not making a mistake
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    Default Re: Control , again .. Leicester v Gloucester

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinky View Post
    I agree with this, but you have to recognise that there will be a spectrum of situations from the clear ball in both hands until it touches the ground to the ball clearly lost forward in goal.
    Lost forward? Do you mean loss of contact? That is a question of fact (provided you have the right view) rather than judgement.
    The previous guidance was that as long as come contact with the ball remained, it would be a try,
    Sensible
    but on reflection that is now considered to have allowed tries where there was a clear lack of control of the ball,
    "lack of control" is a judgement call and thus will vary between referees. How does it differ from loss of contact?
    and that in the field of play it would have been a knock-on
    It does not really arise in the field of play. If you ground the ball in in-goal but the ball squirts forward, that does not matter because the ball has been made dead by the grounding. Not so in the field of play.
    and did not constitute holding the ball and touching the ground with it as required by law for a try.
    That is the first criterion. The second allows the ball to be grounded by applying pressure - nothing about the ball having to be on the ground before you make contact.
    He trudg’d along unknowing what he sought,
    And whistled as he went, for want of thought.
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    It's worthwhile listening to Nigel again, with the perspective that he is doing his best to explain new guidelines

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    Default Re: Control , again .. Leicester v Gloucester

    Quote Originally Posted by crossref View Post
    It's worthwhile listening to Nigel again, with the perspective that he is doing his best to explain new guidelines
    I am objecting to the principle and pointing out that he presumably has some new official guidelines but I don't.
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