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    This really caught my eye

    Addressing the issues raised by the latest PRISP report, Kemp said: “You are three times more likely to get a yellow card for a deliberate knock on than a high tackle around the world


    In a report full of interesting stuff

    https://www.rugbypass.com/news/eddie...istics-report/

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    You are three times more likely to get a yellow card for a deliberate knock on than a high tackle around the world.


    Is that because there are three times more deliberate knock ons than high tackles though?

    Sorry, but I'm just a bit cynical of simple statistics.

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    I assumed it meant that PK for knock on are three times more likely to have a card than PK for high tackle

    I would not be at all surprised if that was true

    Pro rugby is very harsh on knock ons and bearing on cavalier about heads

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    Default Re: Injury update

    Quote Originally Posted by crossref View Post
    cavalier about heads
    or even cavalier 'round heads!
    I, for one, like Roman numerals

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    Default Re: Injury update

    Quote Originally Posted by Taff View Post
    You are three times more likely to get a yellow card for a deliberate knock on than a high tackle around the world.


    Is that because there are three times more deliberate knock ons than high tackles though?

    Sorry, but I'm just a bit cynical of simple statistics.
    Link to report

    Tackling is now the leading cause of injury (overtaking being tackled) with the tackler overtaking the tackled player as most injured person for the first time.

    Injuries from the scrum have continued to fall since the move to Crouch, Bind, Set, although period off per injury has increased. Small sample size though as only 13 injuries were attributed to the scrum in total.

    There is no material difference in the rate of incidence of injuries between artificial and grass pitches, although average inputs recovery time was slightly higher for injuries occurring on artificial turf versus grass.

    Concussion remains the most common injury type (17.9 incidences per 1000 hours) with hamstring injuries a distant second (6.4 incidences per 1000 hours).

    Im not sure where the yellow card stat came from as it's not in the report.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zebra1922 View Post
    Link to report

    Tackling is now the leading cause of injury (overtaking being tackled) with the tackler overtaking the tackled player as most injured person for the first time..
    is that because tackles are getting lower?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zebra1922 View Post
    Concussion remains the most common injury type (17.9 incidences per 1000 hours) with hamstring injuries a distant second (6.4 incidences per 1000 hours).
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    Is that also because tackles are getting lower?

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    Quote Originally Posted by crossref View Post
    is that because tackles are getting lower?

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    Is that also because tackles are getting lower?
    The report does not say. The report does say they continue to focus on laws to try and lower the tackle height to reduce incidence of concussion. The new shoulder height law trial is too limited and too early in it's operation to make any conclusion on whether this is successful in reducing concussion or not, only time will tell.

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    being entirely serious .. I do suspect that tackling lower will reduce concussion injuries for ball carriers, but increase concussion in tacklers.

    which is not to say it's a bad thing, hopefully concussion will come down overall - but it's not necessarily a straightforward matter.
    and tackling lower is not just about concussion of course.


    The trial I'd most like to see is to get rid of the HIA, and go back to old system where players with suspected concussion left the pitch.

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    I suspect that in the professional game that would just lead to more players "toughing it out" unless there was an independent and measurable way of consistently identifying the suspicion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedCapRef View Post
    I suspect that in the professional game that would just lead to more players "toughing it out" unless there was an independent and measurable way of consistently identifying the suspicion.
    or is the HIA in fact a way of encouraging and even authorising players to tough it out

    https://www.ruck.co.uk/watch-dan-big...w-passing-hia/

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