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    Default Quiz # 7 (of 10)

    Time for a more light-hearted question : there is no way we can come to blows over this fun scenario.
    (is there ?)

    As always, give yourself as much time as you would on the pitch (not long, for this one) and then give your decision, A B C D or E. No Law Spoilers I'll provide an answer tomorrow.


    White v Black in a crucial game

    White are losing by one point with two minutes to go, when black give away a PK on the half way line.

    Watched by a TV audience of millions, up steps Elliot Daly who lines up a 50m shot at posts to take the lead

    Daly strikes the ball perfectly ... and it soars high through the air ... it's on target for a posts
    ... and it hits one of the cables that suspend the spider cam and falls down to the field of play ..

    Your decision -

    A Play on !
    B Scrum White
    C Scrum Black
    D take the PK again
    E judge whether the PK would have gone over or not and award it / restart with a DO accordingly

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    Default Re: Quiz # 7 (of 10)

    A. Play on for me.

    A year or so ago. I refereed a match where there were electricity cables going across the pitch at about 30' to 40' above the ground. During the PMB I said "If the ball hits a cable we play on OK!". One of the players laughed and said "I've been playing here for 10 years and I have never seen a ball hit those cables". Have a wild guess what happened?

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    Default Re: Quiz # 7 (of 10)

    B, scrum white

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    Default Re: Quiz # 7 (of 10)

    B. Scrum white. (Logic: Unusual stoppage..white going forward. Also akin to the ball hitting the ref and one team getting an advantage)????

    But I play golf so I prefer its law with this and let them take it again!
    Tell em it's Law 23 and smile

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    Default Re: Quiz # 7 (of 10)

    This came up in a Hampshire referee meeting in the mid 90s. It was a pigeon that got struck however. It wasn't a "fun" question!

    I have some pitches with unusual quirks in them in this area. We agree ground rules (which is actually the origin of the phrase) before we kick off.

    I'm going scrum, kicking team.
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    Default Re: Quiz # 7 (of 10)

    I think it is a line out. To white

    On the halfway line
    Last edited by Not Kurt Weaver; 06-02-19 at 03:02.

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    Default Re: Quiz # 7 (of 10)

    B - scrum white.

    I remember the RWC in 03 being played in Oz. One of the grounds has a roof and they stipulated that if the ball hit the roof it was scrum to the kicking side so I am going with that logic.

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    Default Re: Quiz # 7 (of 10)

    In law, it's a lineout to black in line with the kick - the ball hit something outside the FoP (IME this is more likely to be an overhanging tree) having not got there via a PK to touch.

    But if I were really there, being fully confident in the world-class refereeing abilities that had been bestowed upon me to get me appointed to such a game, my response would be "Move the f****** camera and take the kick again!"

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    Default Re: Quiz # 7 (of 10)

    So here is what I think is the correct answer

    This situation is governed by 6.9.f

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    THE BALL BECOMES DEAD

    The referee will deem the ball to be dead when:
    a. The ball is in touch or touch in-goal.
    b. The ball is grounded in in-goal.
    c. A conversion has been attempted.
    d. A try, penalty or dropped goal has been scored.
    e. The ball or ball-carrier touches the dead-ball line or anything beyond it.
    f. The ball hits anything above the playing area.


    So the ball is dead.

    I am surprised that people think a lineout would happen ? The ball is dead but it's not in touch

    The restart is a scrum .

    Where ? And who gets the put in?
    That's not properly covered in Law .. while I know people could make a case to award it to the team going forward or the team attacking, in real life I would be astonished if anyone did anything different from
    Place . Beneath where it hit the cable and went dead
    Who puts in . White

    So B Scrum White

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    Default Re: Quiz # 7 (of 10)

    6.9 THE BALL BECOMES DEAD

    The referee will deem the ball to be dead when:

    f. The ball hits anything above the playing area.

    Is that a new law then? I don't remember reading that before.

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