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    Default Re: Scotland v Ireland Sexton failed HIA

    But the problem with concussion is that the player is not aware of the extent of the problem and may need to be protected from themselves.

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    Default Re: Scotland v Ireland Sexton failed HIA

    Quote Originally Posted by Camquin View Post
    But the problem with concussion is that the player is not aware of the extent of the problem and may need to be protected from themselves.
    Indeed....and so they should (on match day as I alluded to) but in the weeks after the event they should take responsibility for their own wellbeing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Decorily View Post
    Indeed....and so they should (on match day as I alluded to) but in the weeks after the event they should take responsibility for their own wellbeing.
    Rather than relying on the doctor employed by the IRFU
    I feel you may be right

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    You may be right.
    There were no further injury concerns following the weekend’s keenly-contested Celtic clash at BT Murrayfield, and players carrying knocks from last week will continue their rehab at their provincial bases.

    Statement on IRFU website, makes me wonder if they even do the 48 hours observation bit.
    If they are not feeling concerned, then they bloody well should be.
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    the Irish Independent still reporting that he failed his HIA

    https://www.independent.ie/sport/rug...-37803788.html


    He's not mentioned in the Leinster injury update - -
    https://www.leinsterrugby.ie/squad-u...head-of-zebre/
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    Given that he is still in Ireland camp, it’s not surprising Leinster are reckoning without him.
    But how are we to read the IRFU statement?

    Sexton not mentioned in the injury list
    Devin Toner, CJ Stander, Ringrose and Robbie Henshaw following their opening day defeat to England.
    They were already without locks Iain Henderson and Tadhg Beirne.
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    Quote Originally Posted by L'irlandais View Post
    Given that he is still in Ireland camp, it’s not surprising Leinster are reckoning without him.
    But how are we to read the IRFU statement?.
    ..that Sexton has been declared fit already ?

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    Perhaps it’s simply mind games for Italy. In that, he may already be planning to start Joe Carbery at 10 for the Italy game; with Sexton not even on the bench. The coaching staff have shyed away from making statements about players medical condition before (Conor Murray’s neck injury last year). Because they said

    The lack of disclosure about the nature of injuries to Irish rugby players will become more prevalent in a new era of athletes taking ownership of their information.
    Saying less about their state of health will become the norm in the future as top Irish players seek to protect their careers and retirement strategies by withholding details of their injuries.

    ...former Ireland captain Jamie Heaslip, who was forced to retire with a back injury, maintained that his medical information was his alone and not for public consumption.


    Source (that might explain things) Jonathan Sexton is certainly touchy about the press labeling him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Decorily View Post
    Indeed....and so they should (on match day as I alluded to) but in the weeks after the event they should take responsibility for their own wellbeing.
    They should, but their other interest and wellbeing includes the career they've spent their life training for, and for which there is fierce competition. With such considerable pressure on them to minimise recovery time and understate injury, you need an external authority to enforce safety.

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    Default Re: Scotland v Ireland Sexton failed HIA

    Q1 Player tears ligament in knee
    - does he feel pressure from his club and employers to get back into pitch before he is ready?
    - Or pressure to stay off the pitch until it's completely healed

    Q2 player has concussion
    - is the answer the same as for Q1?

    I have suspicion, or worry, that the answer might be different

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