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    Ball is kicked in goal, May and French defender (FD) in a foot race for the ball. They both end up on tyhe ground and slide into in-goal after the ball. May's right arm hooks around FD's left arm and potentially holds him back/down, and Farrell follows through and scores.

    When NO went to the TMO neither of them discussed this (though the commentary team did).

    So... was it just that neither NO or TMO spotted it? Or cos NO never asked the TMO cannot comment?

    My query is not so much whether it should have been a try or not, but more why wasn't it discussed (do we think).

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    Default Re: May in-goal hold back?

    I am guessing that they didn't think the French defender on his belly would have got to the ball before Farrell, so it became immaterial?

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    Default Re: May in-goal hold back?

    That's my thought Phil - but then again it wasn't even discussed to be then discarded...

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    50:50 they were both pulling at each other "playing incident"
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    Default Re: May in-goal hold back?

    The TMO seemed to be about to say something else after confirming the ball only touched a French arm, but was talked over by NO. I expect that if he’d been intending to discuss something which would rule out the try he would have persisted.

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    Default Re: May in-goal hold back?

    When NO went to the TMPO he said (IIRC and to paraphrase) that the '....on field decision was that the try was scored...' but that they wanted to check whether there was a knock-on. Based upon that brief from NO I'm guessing that the TMO was only looking for the potential knock-on.

    Was the hold back C&O? Yes, IMO
    Would it have stopped Farrell scoring? I doubt it.
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    Default Re: May in-goal hold back?

    I'm not sure how the French player was was holding May TBH. Plus the French player was on his knees when he got pulled back down. I think hat this was definitely material, given the ball was literally 1m a head of him. But I'm surprised there was no YC for the High Tackle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arabcheif View Post
    I'm not sure how the French player was was holding May TBH. Plus the French player was on his knees when he got pulled back down. I think hat this was definitely material, given the ball was literally 1m a head of him. But I'm surprised there was no YC for the High Tackle.
    May was holding back the French player, by hooking his right arm around the left one of the French player.
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    I thought May was making a legal tackle on the French player. He is allowed ( now ) to tackle the player as the defender is attempting to gain possession ( the French player's hand tried to control the ball ). The defender makes himself liable to a tackle as soon as he touches the ball with his hand. This is similar to how Jack Nowell tackled Jacob Stockdale who was juggling the ball in the in-goal last week.
    Or am I stretching it ?

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    Default Re: May in-goal hold back?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phil E View Post
    I am guessing that they didn't think the French defender on his belly would have got to the ball before Farrell, so it became immaterial?
    Exactly what I was thinking.

    The French player was on the floor and I can't see any way he could have scrambled to the ball before Farrell, even if his left arm hadn't been hooked.

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