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    Default Put in to the scrum

    A friend from the Midlands phoned me to ask about this.
    For some reason best known to himself his teams scrum half decided to put the ball into a scrum on the tight head side. The referee insisted he do this for the rest of the game.
    Having read the law I believe it only applies to the scrum in progress, nowhere does it say he decides for the whole game.
    Help please my credibility as an ex referee is at stake.

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    Default Re: Put in to the scrum

    That's my interpretation, ie you can't change your mind in the middle of a specific scrum

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    Default Re: Put in to the scrum

    Yup, Law 19.13


    • The scrum-half chooses which side of the scrum to throw in the ball.


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    Default Re: Put in to the scrum

    Urban Myth. Nothing in law to say he has to stick with his decision for every subsequent scrum.

    He can choose which side at each scrum,...although I have no idea why you would want to choose the other side?

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    Default Re: Put in to the scrum

    Only reason I've seen to pick a feed from the tight head side was because the hooker was considerably better with his left foot than his right. I realise that's a bit of an amateurism because in most cases now the second row need to be more handy with their feet than the hooker but funnily enough I had a scrum half feed from the tight head side for the entire game a couple of weeks ago for that very reason.

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    Default Re: Put in to the scrum

    Quote Originally Posted by Phil E View Post
    Urban Myth. Nothing in law to say he has to stick with his decision for every subsequent scrum.
    It keeps cropping up. The old lawbook said, IIRC, "the scrum half must put the ball into the scrum on the side first chosen" and some people (including at least one assessor) took that to mean for the rest of the game.

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    Default Re: Put in to the scrum

    Not this one.
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    Default Re: Put in to the scrum

    Quote Originally Posted by oldman View Post
    .... Having read the law I believe it only applies to the scrum in progress, nowhere does it say he decides for the whole game.
    That's my understanding too. Having said that, I've had kids just starting out who have gone to the wrong side by mistake. I have let them change, but I have explained to them why some Refs wouldn't let them. It only tends to happen with youngsters; I don't think I've ever had it happen at Youth or Senior level.

    Quote Originally Posted by Phil E View Post
    Urban Myth. Nothing in law to say he has to stick with his decision for every subsequent scrum. He can choose which side at each scrum,...although I have no idea why you would want to choose the other side?
    Quote Originally Posted by Jz558 View Post
    Only reason I've seen to pick a feed from the tight head side was because the hooker was considerably better with his left foot than his right.
    That's what I'm thinking. If a Hooker is left footed, he may just find it far more comfortable using his left foot to hook it back - which means a feed from the right.

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    Default Re: Put in to the scrum

    When the scrum is uncontested you may well decide to use the other side , depending on whether it is blind or open , and the move you are planning

    I don't understand why teams never think of this .. they invariably stand on the normal side

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