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    Default Is the ball out?

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    Default Re: Is the ball out?

    One of my views (as a biased Englishman) was that Wales we’re regularly overrunning the ruck and borderline playing players beyond the ruck, but they were doing it at tempo so not always massively obvious, it gave them a lot of front foot ball (that was on top of all the obligatory off feet from both teams!)

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    Default Re: Is the ball out?

    Out of what? Was a ruck ever formed, or is it just a tackle (14.11c)?
    Be reasonable - do it my way.

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    Default Re: Is the ball out?

    There were arguably players over the ball immediately prior to the still. If you've got access to walk v English it's from 34 minutes game time onwards.

    If it's a twol though... Does anything change here? Who can play the ball? It's clearly not inside any feet of anybody

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flish View Post
    One of my views (as a biased Englishman) was that Wales we’re regularly overrunning the ruck and borderline playing players beyond the ruck, but they were doing it at tempo so not always massively obvious, it gave them a lot of front foot ball (that was on top of all the obligatory off feet from both teams!)
    So is it in or out?

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    Default Re: Is the ball out?

    If just a tackle, then the ball is still within the tackle area, so must be approached from the direction of one's GL.
    Be reasonable - do it my way.

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    Default Re: Is the ball out?

    Quote Originally Posted by didds View Post
    There were arguably players over the ball immediately prior to the still. If you've got access to walk v English it's from 34 minutes game time onwards.

    If it's a twol though... Does anything change here? Who can play the ball? It's clearly not inside any feet of anybody

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    So is it in or out?
    Out, playable, and I would call it as such to avoid doubt

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    Default Re: Is the ball out?

    interesting that we seem to be discovering another difference between a ruck and a twol...

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    Default Re: Is the ball out?

    Quote Originally Posted by Flish View Post
    Out, playable, and I would call it as such to avoid doubt
    Agreed, I would call out so everyone knows. Fair to everyone this way so Wales know they need to act, England know they can come round as out of ruck/TWOL.

    Also of interest is where the crocodile gets longer and longer, but people are only putting a hand on players in front of them. To me they are not bound and I will call the ball out.

    Also saw a few today (Italy - Ireland) where tackled players placed the ball then pulled it back towards themselves, or SH kicking/tapping a ball back into the ruck area. Both offences in my book.
    Last edited by Zebra1922; 24-02-19 at 21:02.

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    Default Re: Is the ball out?

    Also the scrum half dragging it back with his hand, note the young lad reffing the Scotland vs France warned them not to do this

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    Default Re: Is the ball out?

    Quote Originally Posted by chbg View Post
    If just a tackle, then the ball is still within the tackle area, so must be approached from the direction of one's GL.
    So if a white player comes from behind the tackle in a TWOL (his side) then "its out" ? Correct? So both A&B are out?

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