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    Default Charge down goes dead.

    Apologies if this has been raised before but I cannot find any answers here or on World rugby web-site.
    Situation in a game yesterday. 5 mt line out, won by defence and scrum half passes to number 10 deep in in-goal. !0 kicks but the ball is changed down by an attacking player in goal and goes dead.
    Referee awards a drop out.
    Right or should it have been a five Mt scrum?

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    Default Re: Charge down goes dead.

    5m scrum for me.

    Ball was put in-goal by the defending side and went dead.

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    Default Re: Charge down goes dead.

    this should be 5m scrum

    law 20.1

    infringement/stoppage The ball is taken into in-goal by the defending team and made dead.
    where In the scrum zone at the point closest to where the ball was made dead.
    who puts in The attacking team.

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    If charge down had been in FoP it would be a 22. Perhaps ref saw it that way?
    I, for one, like Roman numerals

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    Default Re: Charge down goes dead.

    Or the ref just got it wrong. OP says it's deep in goal. It's a big stretch to mistake deep in goal for in field of play.

    Defender
    In
    DeaD
    Scrum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dickie E View Post
    If charge down had been in FoP it would be a 22. Perhaps ref saw it that way?
    Quote Originally Posted by didds View Post
    Or the ref just got it wrong. OP says it's deep in goal. It's a big stretch to mistake deep in goal for in field of play.
    The one problem when this happens is that everything happens very very fast. It's like pinball, the ball is kicked, ricochets all over the place and BANG .... suddenly everyone's looking at you for a decision.

    It's happened to me twice, and luckily both times I had good TJs.

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    There is only one decision to be made. Who put the ball in goal. That's it. It didn't matter who does what etc afterwards (usual caveats). It's all about who put it there.

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    Default Re: Charge down goes dead.

    Quote Originally Posted by didds View Post
    There is only one decision to be made. Who put the ball in goal. That's it. It didn't matter who does what etc afterwards (usual caveats). It's all about who put it there.
    Except when it's held up (in goal) .
    Tell em it's Law 23 and smile

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    Quote Originally Posted by didds View Post
    Or the ref just got it wrong. OP says it's deep in goal. It's a big stretch to mistake deep in goal for in field of play.

    Defender
    In
    DeaD
    Scrum.

    Didds
    the kick was deep in goal
    I, for one, like Roman numerals

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    Default Re: Charge down goes dead.

    Quote Originally Posted by didds View Post
    There is only one decision to be made. Who put the ball in goal. That's it. It didn't matter who does what etc afterwards (usual caveats). It's all about who put it there.
    In its most simplistic format - yes. If ball cannons off charge down into one of his own players you have potential accidental offside or into an opponent you have potential knock on. Life isn't always simple.
    I, for one, like Roman numerals

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