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    Default Re: IRE v FRA: to card or not to card?

    Oh, also felt that the first offence at the scrum the ref YC the French replacement tight head was green 16 standing up!

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    Default Re: IRE v FRA: to card or not to card?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinky View Post
    Oh, also felt that the first offence at the scrum the ref YC the French replacement tight head was green 16 standing up!
    Standing up, or Driven up by Blue?

    That's the questions you have to ask....its not always obvious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by didds View Post
    I thought the ref looked out fo his depth. Surely far too many PKs in the red zone before the eventual YC?

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    I thought he did some things very well but indeed I also had my doubts about the number of offences in really strong attacking positions for Ireland and the lack of a card until very late in the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil E View Post
    Standing up, or Driven up by Blue?

    That's the questions you have to ask....its not always obvious.
    I agree, but the blue FR were struggling to keep the scrum up, and green 16 went up as green applied pressure, and his head came out forst, so I would have been quite confident at awarding a penalty to blue for that. However to some extent that would not have been equitable given the difficulty the blue scrum had been in before.

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    Default Re: IRE v FRA: to card or not to card?

    Conor Murray is always doing this and stricter refs have told him off for doing so. He does it when he feels the match referee is not penalising material stuff. (Childish of him I know.) Both teams were actually getting frustrated with the referee’s lack of decisiveness, and handbags came out more than once.
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    Default Re: IRE v FRA: to card or not to card?

    Quote Originally Posted by irishref View Post
    It was an eventful game alright, so I'd like to put another discussion point on yesterday's game out there.

    I don't have a time on the game, it was near the end of the first half, but I think with my description you won't need highlights if you didn't see the game.

    France had been killing Irish ball in their own 22 repeatedly and the ref gave their captain the team warning and told him to tell them. A couple of phases later, just inside the French 22, Ireland have set up a ruck. A French player was slowly walking back to get on his side but found himself just outside of the Irish 9-10 channel, so he stopped moving.

    The Irish scrum half saw this and threw the ball at him, in my opinion to milk the yellow card that France had just been warned about. The ref gave just the penalty but no card, I didn't hear what he said since it wasn't clear on the french tv broadcast I was watching.

    For what it's worth, I agreed with the ref. Despite the team warning they were on, in my opinion you simply don't try to force the ref into giving a card by such a blatant action.
    At the time I felt Murray was the guilty party (9.7(c)): he could have passed anywhere he liked or run with it or kick. Was disappointing to see such a contrivance rewarded.

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