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    Default NO on forward pasess

    It's no longer the direction of the hands that matters, it's ... ..

    Well listen for yourself from 43mins

    [Brian Moore's Full Contact Rugby] Martyn Williams: I can't imagine Wales not winning
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    Default Re: NO on forward pasess

    Quote Originally Posted by crossref View Post
    It's no longer the direction of the hands that matters, it's ... ..

    Well listen for yourself from 43mins

    [Brian Moore's Full Contact Rugby] Martyn Williams: I can't imagine Wales not winning
    http://podplayer.net/?id=65278596 via @PodcastAddict
    Nigel says it very simple. He then went on to make it clear as mud
    When you are dead, you don't know that you are dead. It is difficult only for the others.
    It's the same when you are stupid.

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    Default Re: NO on forward pasess

    Nigel Owens has a lot of qualities, but succinctly explaining the Laws is not one of them. I would say he is a more instinctive type of ref..

    But did anyone else get the impression this was another planned announcement of a change of policy / emphasis ?
    Brian Moore's question was clearly a set up "it always used to be about direction of hands , is that still the case ?'
    Funny you should say that, Brian

    World Rugby tinkering madly in the run up to the RWC
    Last edited by crossref; 12-03-19 at 23:03.

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    Default Re: NO on forward pasess

    Quote Originally Posted by crossref View Post
    It's no longer the direction of the hands that matters, it's ... ..

    Well listen for yourself from 43mins

    [Brian Moore's Full Contact Rugby] Martyn Williams: I can't imagine Wales not winning
    http://podplayer.net/?id=65278596 via @PodcastAddict
    Well, the law update incorporated reference to arms not hands, anyway, but “goal line”? What is he talking about? A missed opportunity to educate

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    Default Re: NO on forward pasess

    Not sure, I heard that as not just about the hands (which is true, the fingers can be pointing backwards but if the rear most hand pushes the ball it will still go forward), but it's still a great indicator, so don'r think there's any great change coming on this front. What I did find interesting was the chat about clear and obvious, so it it's not a clear and obvious forward pass then play on.

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    Default Re: NO on forward pasess

    Quote Originally Posted by crossref View Post
    Nigel Owens has a lot of qualities, but succinctly explaining the Laws is not one of them. I would say he is a more instinctive type of ref..

    But did anyone else get the impression this was another planned announcement of a change of policy / emphasis ?
    Brian Moore's question was clearly a set up "it always used to be about direction of hands , is that still the case ?'
    Funny you should say that, Brian

    World Rugby tinkering madly in the run up to the RWC

    I didn't realise Brian and Nigel are now spokesmen for World Rugby.
    When did that appointment happen?

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    Default Re: NO on forward pasess

    Quote Originally Posted by Treadmore View Post
    but “goal line”? What is he talking about?
    At least he didn't say "try line"!

    Personally I never liked the hands thing. It's a useful thing to look at, but shouldn't be the basis for the law.

    I remember one game (though can't remember who was playing) where they went to the TMO for a clear forward pass (the receiver having overrun the passer) but because no camera angles could see his hands they awarded the try.

    And I've awarded numerous C&O forward passes where I haven't been able to see the players hands, but have still been able to see it was a forward pass!

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    Default Re: NO on forward pasess

    Quote Originally Posted by The Fat View Post
    Nigel says it very simple. He then went on to make it clear as mud
    I thought exactly the same.

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    Default Re: NO on forward pasess

    The basic idea is very simple: the ball initially has the same forward speed as the ball carrier. In passing it he must not increase the forward speed of the ball.
    He trudg’d along unknowing what he sought,
    And whistled as he went, for want of thought.
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    Default Re: NO on forward pasess

    Quote Originally Posted by Phil E View Post
    I didn't realise Brian and Nigel are now spokesmen for World Rugby.
    When did that appointment happen?
    I imagine it works more like this

    1 something happens to do with x
    2 WR issue a memo to elite refs
    3 Brian and Nigel discuss . What shall we talk about this week ? What's topical ?
    4 Nigel says : I know, ask me about x

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