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    Default Are there any offiside lines at a quick throw

    Incident from my game yesterday. Made me think for a second.

    Blue 10 doing a classic exit. Blue 10 kicks to touch. Line of touch it half-way line. Blue 11 who was onside, is the sole chaser.
    The ball has rolled in touch and Red 14 gathers it and is looking like he wants to take a quick throw.
    Blue 11 ( the chaser ) continues his run runs up to the Red 15 ( who was deep and offering himself for the quick throw ) to mark him, in case of the quick throw threat.

    However, red 13 has now run back and unmarked and the quick throw is passed to him.
    Blue 11 ( who had overrun the line of touch ) sees this and runs backwards to tackle Red 13.
    I hear "Offside!" shouts from the Red players. And a Red player saying "He was in front of that throw in , Sir !".
    Yes Blue 11 was "in front" of where the quick throw had occurred, but
    I reply with something like "No lineout so no offsides! PLay on !".
    Just want to make sure that's how other refs are reffing it.

    Offside lines only exist if they take a lineout - right ?

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    Default Re: Are there any offiside lines at a quick throw

    Sounds fair to me.

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    Default Re: Are there any offiside lines at a quick throw

    I'll follow this one with interest, but my first thought is the offside lines are only created when the LO forms.

    I've been caught out by QTIs before now, because a lot happens very quickly.

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    Default Re: Are there any offiside lines at a quick throw

    He was in position legitimately so for me that is fair game. If you take a QTI you accept the inherrent risks.

    If you want Line out offsides lines then take a line out not a quick throw.

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    Default Re: Are there any offiside lines at a quick throw

    The section in the laws is "offside at the lineout"... until that's formed it's open play, as far as I know.

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    Default Re: Are there any offiside lines at a quick throw

    You can't be offside if the ball is dead. In a QTI it is open play as soon as the ball is thrown. Just let it travel 5m.
    Be reasonable - do it my way.

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    Default Re: Are there any offiside lines at a quick throw

    Where was the #11 stood? If he was stood inside the 5m line then he preventing the QTI and should be sanctioned by a PK
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    Default Re: Are there any offiside lines at a quick throw

    gets a bit interesting if its a quickly taken lineout (as opposed to a QTI).

    2 + 2 on LoT. Ball thrown in. What are the obligations on the other players?
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    Default Re: Are there any offiside lines at a quick throw

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickie E View Post
    gets a bit interesting if its a quickly taken lineout (as opposed to a QTI).

    2 + 2 on LoT. Ball thrown in. What are the obligations on the other players?
    To get onside ASAP without interfering with play.
    He trudg’d along unknowing what he sought,
    And whistled as he went, for want of thought.
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    Default Re: Are there any offiside lines at a quick throw

    Quote Originally Posted by chbg View Post
    You can't be offside if the ball is dead. In a QTI it is open play as soon as the ball is thrown. Just let it travel 5m.
    The problem though CHBG is that until a QTI is no longer available (eg the ball has been touched etc etc) the ball isn't really dead, hence the phrase "Zombie Ball". Ie the ball isn't alive but it isn't 100% dead either because it can come alive any second.

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