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    Default Re: South African schoolboy rugby viral tackle video

    I've penalised pushing in youth games as excessive before now, it's all about context, but that looks wrong, contact point was high (but possibly not illegal - shoulder to shoulder maybe, could be a high tackle depending on age grade if in the UK), but a 'high on the body' tackle with force will increase the likely hood to tipping a player over which would be reckless for me.

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    Default Re: South African schoolboy rugby viral tackle video

    I'm willing to put my neck on the line here..... There is no way I am sending someone off for that on a Saturday.

    I defy anyone could day that is a def red at first time of seeing it, at full speed and without replays.

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    Default Re: South African schoolboy rugby viral tackle video

    Quote Originally Posted by frenchie851 View Post
    I'm willing to put my neck on the line here..... There is no way I am sending someone off for that on a Saturday.
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    What would you do on a Sunday
    As this is a age group game

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    For me this is dangerous play, even if unintentional...Screenshot 2019-03-26 23.37.09.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcroker View Post
    For me this is dangerous play, even if unintentional...
    Stats has shown that the most injuries occur at the tackle phase.
    We can therefore induce that in a collision/contact sport like rugby that tackling alone is, by it's very nature, dangerous. Every tackle is potentially dangerous. (Sh!t will happen). Even the tackler gets a big face full of earth!

    We need to distil what was done illegal before handing out sanctions.

    Don't get me wrong - I empathise, no, sympathise with the poor kid flattened BUT what was the bit that was illegal for the tackler? Being too big? Being too strong? Being too fast? I don't think I read anywhere where, in a game "for all sizes", that they are illegal?

    Was it high? No.
    Did he grasp? Yes.
    Did he dive torpedo style? The footage for me isn't that conclusive - and is it illegal to 'dive' (it is into a ruck without binding...but this is a tackle).

    I'm really struggling to see where it is illegal - as cringing as it is to watch (especially as I have a small 14yo that is up against giants like those in the clip! - So yeah - I worry! Note to son: pass the f@cking ball quickly!)
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    Default Re: South African schoolboy rugby viral tackle video

    I'm OK with the hit itself. I think the tackler had the opportunity to pull out so I'm going with late.
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    Default Re: South African schoolboy rugby viral tackle video

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickie E View Post
    I'm OK with the hit itself. I think the tackler had the opportunity to pull out so I'm going with late.
    I don't have the exact timings - but I'm guessing he'd need to have the reaction skills of a F1 driver to change his action once committed at that speed.

    But that would be a hell of a lot easier to sell as your "sympathy call" than anything else!
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    Default Re: South African schoolboy rugby viral tackle video

    Quote Originally Posted by menace View Post
    Stats has shown that the most injuries occur at the tackle phase.
    We can therefore induce that in a collision/contact sport like rugby that tackling alone is, by it's very nature, dangerous. Every tackle is potentially dangerous. (Sh!t will happen). Even the tackler gets a big face full of earth!

    We need to distil what was done illegal before handing out sanctions.

    Don't get me wrong - I empathise, no, sympathise with the poor kid flattened BUT what was the bit that was illegal for the tackler? Being too big? Being too strong? Being too fast? I don't think I read anywhere where, in a game "for all sizes", that they are illegal?

    Was it high? No.
    Did he grasp? Yes.
    Did he dive torpedo style? The footage for me isn't that conclusive - and is it illegal to 'dive' (it is into a ruck without binding...but this is a tackle).

    I'm really struggling to see where it is illegal - as cringing as it is to watch (especially as I have a small 14yo that is up against giants like those in the clip! - So yeah - I worry! Note to son: pass the f@cking ball quickly!)
    But lifting our heads from the Law Book, if that's legal and normal in age grade rugby then over time that would spell the end of age grade rugby..

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    Default Re: South African schoolboy rugby viral tackle video

    For me he lifts him above the horizontal - perhaps unintentionally as a result of hitting him back so hard, but irrespective of intent the tackled players hips go well above shoulder and then head hits floor.

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    Default Re: South African schoolboy rugby viral tackle video

    The force of the tackle takes his feet above the horizontal not the tackler.

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