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    Default Re: Team moving forward?

    Yup, which was the complete opposite to the team 'going forward' in my original scenario.

    So in conclusion, someone gets a scrum, ref chooses, move on :-)

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    Default Re: Team moving forward?

    Quote Originally Posted by Flish View Post
    So in conclusion, someone gets a scrum, ref chooses, move on :-)
    Provided that the ref chooses with an air of certainty and confidence of course...
    “Uncertainty is the path to the dark side. Uncertainty leads to anger. Anger leads to infringements. Infringements leads to suffering.”
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    Default Re: Team moving forward?

    In this situation the feed is awarded to the team that was "going forward" — that is, the team that had the forward momentum at the ruck. If the ball is held up at a maul, the scrum is awarded to the team not in possession when the maul started

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcroker View Post
    Provided that the ref chooses with an air of certainty and confidence of course...
    “Uncertainty is the path to the dark side. Uncertainty leads to anger. Anger leads to infringements. Infringements leads to suffering.”
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    Indeed. a wise old baseball umpire told me that the call you need to make with most confidence is the 50/50 strike / ball call.
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    Default Re: Team moving forward?

    Quote Originally Posted by Flish View Post
    Blue vs Green, Blue Scrum, ball comes out blue side and we end up in an unplayable mess about 5m further back, no team in real possession (Junior Game). So restart is scrum to the team going forward, which arguably is green.

    No complaints, but got me thinking as to whether going forward is literal position on pitch or does it imply possession? Even if you step back to ‘attacking team’ which was Blue, they weren’t at the time it all went wrong. Is there a correct answer here’s?
    In Junior games there is only a 1.5 metre push allowed at a scrum, so how is it 5 metres back. If Green has pushed more than 5 metres that is a penalty anyway, subject to normal game management rules, calling them to stop pushing etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedCapRef View Post
    In Junior games there is only a 1.5 metre push allowed at a scrum, so how is it 5 metres back. If Green has pushed more than 5 metres that is a penalty anyway, subject to normal game management rules, calling them to stop pushing etc.
    I read OP as ball has come out of scrum and blue scrum half or fly half have been tackled going backwards so Green have ascendancy at the breakdown and are "going forward"

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    Default Re: Team moving forward?

    That makes sense then, I read as it coming out the back 5 metres back.

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    Default Re: Team moving forward?

    Quote Originally Posted by RedCapRef View Post
    In Junior games there is only a 1.5 metre push allowed at a scrum, so how is it 5 metres back. If Green has pushed more than 5 metres that is a penalty anyway, subject to normal game management rules, calling them to stop pushing etc.
    The OP does not say the scrum was pushed back 5 metres.

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    Default Re: Team moving forward?

    That's correct, scrum didn't move 5m (I normally call hold drive at 1m to give them a chance), the question was more around the definition of 'moving forward' which technically was green even though blue has possession and it had been their scrum

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