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    Default Turning maul

    Red catch ball at a lineout. A maul is formed. Red drive forward. The maul partially turns. Three Blue players end up on the Red side of the maul. Always bound in/on. The ball is popped out to the Red S/H. The nearest blue player on the opposite side of the maul releases his bind and tackles the Red S/H. Decision?

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    play on
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    Yup, as long they stay legally bound then they're allowed to be there, once the maul is over we're in open play so crack on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dickie E View Post
    play on
    Agreed. And shout as much too, so there's no doubt - while it's legal, it looked odd, so a bit of proactive communication can work wonders.
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    In the Worcester Quins game there was a lot of proactive reffing of this .. "never changed his bind" was the call, so gnifying he was still legal

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    Default Re: Turning maul

    Perhaps OB could confirm if this changed.

    In my school days (back in the late 70s) I seem to remember being told that players in a Maul could push but couldn't pull. Ie if you weren't pushing, you had to make an effort to leave the Maul and either move back to the general offside line or re-enter the Maul again legally.

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    Default Re: Turning maul

    Quote Originally Posted by Taff View Post
    Perhaps OB could confirm if this changed.

    In my school days (back in the late 70s) I seem to remember being told that players in a Maul could push but couldn't pull. Ie if you weren't pushing, you had to make an effort to leave the Maul and either move back to the general offside line or re-enter the Maul again legally.
    The maul was first defined in 1967. In 1979 it was made illegal to wilfully collapse a maul, or to try and pull an opponent out of a maul. It may be this last one you are remembering.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OB.. View Post
    In 1979 it was made illegal to ..... try and pull an opponent out of a maul. .
    Another thing that we see all the time at the top level. Doesn't even warrant a preventive shout, let alone a penalty.

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    I think we are in agreement here. I posted the situation because it is one of those that looks wrong and just wondered if anyone did think it should be penalised - just like the opposition and a sizable crowd watching on who all made their opinions known! Fortunately the referee was more knowledgeable than all of them and play was allowed to continue.

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    Default Re: Turning maul

    This has always been my understanding - join a maul illegallty and as long as you dont swim through the middle (though that's closer to be being legal ) or around the outside you are always legal wherever you end up.

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