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    Default Defender passes ball into own in-goal. Ball kicked dead by attacker.

    I thought we had done this one to death but I was surprised by 2 things in this video from the Leicester v Bristol game last weekend.

    Listen to the commentary. Commentator says that attackers have kicked that ball over the line and hence it should be a 22 DO.
    Referee, Mr. Dickson can be heard awarding a 5m scrum but then , after consulting (presumably ) his AR, then awards a 22 DO to Leicester. The video stops just before, but the restart was indeed a 22 DO !!

    In the replay, I see Genge (Leicester) pass the ball back into his own in-goal and where, a Bristol attacker kicks the ball dead.
    Was it right ?

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1RoR...ew?usp=sharing

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    Default Re: Defender passes ball into own in-goal. Ball kicked dead by attacker.

    that's bizarre. Should have been a try but failing that, a 5 metre scrum.
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    5m scrum, but we are going to get more of this in goal confusion as this is one area where the new book is not very clearly laid out

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    Default Re: Defender passes ball into own in-goal. Ball kicked dead by attacker.

    5m scrum for me - although I made the same mistake / brain fart earlier in the season. I'll admit it's a little odd, not many scenarios where the team that puts the ball off the field gets the restart advantage, but there it is.

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    Default Re: Defender passes ball into own in-goal. Ball kicked dead by attacker.

    The ref changed his mind a couple of times in deciding what to give and players from both sides were giving him advice on the decision. I think he just got confused himself in the end. It was clearly taken in by Leicester and should have been a 5m scrum.

    This has absolutely nothing to do with the new law book as Karl Dickson knows the law, as do his experienced AR's and the TMO. It was just a mistake.

    Leicester got away with that one.

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    Default Re: Defender passes ball into own in-goal. Ball kicked dead by attacker.

    Just had a listen to the reflink recording and it goes like this.

    Ref: Taken back by Green, 5m scrum

    (He is then listening to another voice, but I cant hear that, it might have been an AR or the TMO, but I only get the ref's side of the conversation.)

    Ref:
    Who kicked it in?
    Was it taken back in?
    Passed back by Green so 5m scrum to White
    Then kicked out by White
    They kicked it dead, 22
    My mistake sorry, I apologise, my mistake
    Passed back in, then he's kicked it dead 22

    Bristol player then says its like a charge down, whats the difference.

    Ref says: It was passed back in then you kicked it dead

    Bristol player says you're not understanding my point.

    Ref: 'You' kicked it dead 22

    Player: never mind



    PS: commentator says it should have been a 22 as White kicked it dead
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    Default Re: Defender passes ball into own in-goal. Ball kicked dead by attacker.

    5m scrum white.

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    Definite scrum 5. How the ball was made dead doesn't matter, only who put it into in goal.

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    Default Re: Defender passes ball into own in-goal. Ball kicked dead by attacker.

    Karl Dickson reffing the prem.
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    Default Re: Defender passes ball into own in-goal. Ball kicked dead by attacker.

    Quote Originally Posted by DocY View Post
    Definite scrum 5. How the ball was made dead doesn't matter, only who put it into in goal.
    Unfortunately the new Law Book contains references to who and how it was made dead ..which make it seem like it is important and serves to cloud the issue

    .RESTART KICKS FOLLOWING A TOUCH-DOWN (22-METRE DROP-OUT)


    Apart from at a kick-off or restart kick, if the ball is played or taken into in-goal by an attacking player and is made dead by an opponent, play is restarted with a 22-metre drop-out.



    This particular incident .. 5m scrum
    Last edited by crossref; 01-05-19 at 13:05.

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