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    Default Re: Why no red card?

    Quote Originally Posted by beckett50 View Post
    In realtime it is RC.

    However, with the benefit of a TMO and replay there is clear mitigating circumstances for only a YC - one of which is the Black#20 causing Kearney to change his line.

    The calmness of NO showed through and the right decision was, IMHO, delivered.
    An interesting contribution, which had me looking again at the video, Player 21 for Glagow was always ahead of Kearney and heading towards Hogg, Kearney does put his arm towards 21 but, for me, there is no discernible impact on his forward momentum with the distance and impact making me conclude they were not material to the incident and the Glasgow player was entitled to be there. NO clearly felt the same as his reference to the YC decison was Hogg landing on his shoulder.

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    Default Re: Why no red card?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rich_NL View Post
    Only the high tackle part was updated, I don't see any reason to discard the challenge in the air guidance.
    https://laws.worldrugby.org/?domain=9&guideline=8
    It’s a note from May 2015 related to Law 10.4 i. The laws have been renumbered, so it is no longer Law 10 but Law 9. How the F@#% are newbies susposed to make sense of such a useful note?
    The whole Law amendments and guidance is a shambles. People have been paid whacking great sums of money to update this Law book and the end result is so confusing as to be indémerdable in places.
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    Default Re: Why no red card?

    Quote Originally Posted by beckett50 View Post
    In realtime it is RC.

    However, with the benefit of a TMO and replay there is clear mitigating circumstances for only a YC - one of which is the Black#20 causing Kearney to change his line.

    The calmness of NO showed through and the right decision was, IMHO, delivered.
    I'm not so sure.
    If Black had pushed Kearney at the point of jumping, or in his jump, I'd agree.

    But Kearney was unimpeded at the point of jumping, and he had time enough to pull out when it was clear he was never going to make it. He, alone, bears the responsibility of what happened.
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    Default Re: Why no red card?

    World Rugby Guidelines dictate it to be a red card if a player lands on their shoulder. Here is an exert from the RA Game Management Guidelines 2019:

    Challenge in the air• World Rugby has provided guidelines for situations where two players contest for a ball in the air and
    collide:
    o Play on = Fair challenge with both players in a realistic position to catch the ball. Even if the
    player lands dangerously, play on
    o PK = Not a fair challenge, wrong timing but no pulling down
    o YC = Not a fair challenge, there is no contest and the player is pulled down/interfered with landing
    on their back or side
    o RC = Not a fair challenge, there is no contest and the player is pulled down/interfered with landing
    on their head, neck or shoulder

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    Default Re: Why no red card?

    Which is great news for all referees in Australia. Game management guidelines 2019
    What other Unions have published a similar document?
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    Default Re: Why no red card?

    I am envious of other unions GMG , I wish we had them

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    Default Re: Why no red card?

    Quote Originally Posted by crossref View Post
    I am envious of other unions GMG , I wish we had them
    and the best bit is they print in red stuff that is new each year. How innovative is that?
    I, for one, like Roman numerals

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    Quote Originally Posted by crossref View Post
    I am envious of other unions GMG , I wish we had them
    Even the USA ones

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    Default Re: Why no red card?

    Just that they have them.
    One single document ,updated each year, that all referees can reasonably be expected the know

    Great for consistency

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    Default Re: Why no red card?

    Quote Originally Posted by crossref View Post
    Just that they have them.
    One single document ,updated each year, that all referees can reasonably be expected the know

    Great for consistency
    Good in theory, but if you follow the USA Rugby Facebook page you will know that the idea of consistency seems alien to some referees.

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