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    Default Re: Premiership final

    Its all about money.


    And the other thing to understand is that when these play off systems are in place, the league is NOT a league - it is a qualifying competiton.


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    I think it's pretty easy to understand why the premiership is constructed in a way to deliver a grand final .

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    Quote Originally Posted by OB.. View Post
    The Premiership final was an exciting game won by the better team on the day. However to me that does not validate the current system whereby the winner of the marathon (league fixtures) has to win a couple of sprints to be awarded the title. Only 4 times out of 15 has the league winner also won the knockout phase. On one occasion Saracens came from 4th to win it. In 2002-3 Gloucester were 15 league points ahead of Wasps in second place; they had shared their head to head games, but Wasps beat them in the final. Is this really the way to decide the best team in the league?

    The official line AIUI is that teams can be unfairly disadvantaged by international calls and injuries during the season. Surely injuries are random events, so why should you expect all team to be better off at the end of the season? I don't have an easy way to check the impact over the season but for internationals it is easier.

    Last season there were 9 internationals, but on only four of those weekends were there any League games scheduled. Saracens, Exeter, and Leicester were hardest hit by calls - usually 4 or 5 each. Exeter won all four of those games; Saracens won 2 and lost 2; Leicester lost all four (contributing to their very bad year).

    Is it cynical to suggest that maybe it actually comes down to sponsorship/ticket money?
    would you like to see the RWC just a series of pool games and the one with the most points gets the chocolates?
    I, for one, like Roman numerals

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dickie E View Post
    would you like to see the RWC just a series of pool games and the one with the most points gets the chocolates?
    Totally irrelevant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OB.. View Post
    Totally irrelevant.
    why? That would fit in with the marathon analogy.
    I, for one, like Roman numerals

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    Quote Originally Posted by crossref View Post
    I think it's pretty easy to understand why the premiership is constructed in a way to deliver a grand final .
    Well weve done it for well over 120 years, in amateur and juniors as well as pros.

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    The RFU would not have approved, it might encourage unhealthy competition.
    Much better to have ad hoc fixtures and preserve the corinthian spirit.
    And anyway it would detract from the County Championship which everyone knows is the epitome of the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Camquin View Post
    And anyway it would detract from the County Championship which everyone knows is the epitome of the game.

    well... given that the amateur game wrt actual incvolvement probably ecompasses over 90% of the game in England (and I'm sure elsewhere on the whole), and most certainly over 50.1 %, then why wouldn;t the conty championship not represent the the game in england?

    As for the "epitome" - well that could be represented by just two sides CF Scotland - is all other club rugby under the auspices of the SRFU unworthy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dickie E View Post
    why? That would fit in with the marathon analogy.
    Do I really need to spell it out to you?!
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    Default Re: Premiership final

    OB you are asking the wrong question .. you ask what is the best way to determine the winner of a league

    The real question is .. what is the best format for the top tier professional rugby format?

    And I think the answer is . Some kind of round robin out of which the top group play a couple of knock out rounds

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