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    Quote Originally Posted by crossref View Post
    OB you are asking the wrong question .. you ask what is the best way to determine the winner of a league

    The real question is .. what is the best format for the top tier professional rugby format?

    And I think the answer is . Some kind of round robin out of which the top group play a couple of knock out rounds
    I am pointing out that straightforward league systems and knockout systems do not fit well together because the requirements for success are different.

    Apparently they are happy with it in Australia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OB.. View Post
    I am pointing out that straightforward league systems and knockout systems do not fit well together because the requirements for success are different.

    Apparently they are happy with it in Australia.
    Of course our system is neither a straighforward league nor a straightforward knockout - it's a hybirid

    It's neither a marathon nor a sprint, it's a duathlon

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    Quote Originally Posted by OB.. View Post
    I am pointing out that straightforward league systems and knockout systems do not fit well together because the requirements for success are different.

    Apparently they are happy with it in Australia.
    Its just what we are used to. Making the finals and peaking at the right time is the goal

    I played in a soccer league a few years back where they made a big deal out of first-past-the post (which we won) and tried to play down the finals series (we lost the grand final) - I think because foreign born people took over in the administration.

    We got a bigger trophy and nicer medals that the team that just beat us, but we were all gutted. It just felt wrong being given medals after losing the last game of the year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OB.. View Post
    Do I really need to spell it out to you?!
    Don't bother, I respect your right to dodge the question.
    I, for one, like Roman numerals

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    Quote Originally Posted by TigerCraig View Post
    Its just what we are used to. Making the finals and peaking at the right time is the goal

    I played in a soccer league a few years back where they made a big deal out of first-past-the post (which we won) and tried to play down the finals series (we lost the grand final) - I think because foreign born people took over in the administration.

    We got a bigger trophy and nicer medals that the team that just beat us, but we were all gutted. It just felt wrong being given medals after losing the last game of the year.
    and of course with a league system, the winner can be decided weeks before the end of the season. Not with a bang but a whimper.

    I'm in a super rugby tipping comp. The leader is now so far ahead everyone is starting to lose interest weeks before the season ends.
    I, for one, like Roman numerals

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dickie E View Post
    and of course with a league system, the winner can be decided weeks before the end of the season. Not with a bang but a whimper.

    I'm in a super rugby tipping comp. The leader is now so far ahead everyone is starting to lose interest weeks before the season ends.
    A few years back my son missed out on a junior cricket premiership because they did first past the post due to not having enough spare weeks to fit in finals before footy took over the grounds.

    His team had their game against the bottom team (who everyone else had flogged) washed out so they shared the points. Due to that the second placed team, whose game didn't get washed out and they won, leapfrogged them. Now, they may still have lost in a final but at least they could have gone down fighting

    Luckily they won the next year, and then 3 out of the next 4 years in the seniors comp

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    Well not playing postponed games is daft.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Wakeham View Post
    Well not playing postponed games is daft.
    When would you play them?

    Seniors rugby has 2 spare weekends built in but juniors dont, and no cricket comps have spare weeks

    For amateur sports there is maybe 2 weeks gap between winter and summer sport ground allocations
    Last edited by TigerCraig; 04-06-19 at 08:06.

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    Well the rest of the world manages it. Not sure why it is beyond the ARU to do it. What would you do if you had our wether?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Wakeham View Post
    Well the rest of the world manages it. Not sure why it is beyond the ARU to do it. What would you do if you had our wether?
    Its not the ARU, they have nothing to do with grassroots sport. Its the fact that mist grassroots sport is played on council owned parks and shared between multiple sports.

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