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    Default Re: Uncontested scrums

    Quote Originally Posted by Blindside View Post
    With my coaches head on, if I've got a dominant scrum in an important game and due to weather conditions the referee says we are going uncontested due to safety concerns, I could/would take my team off. A game would never start where scrums were unsafe without consent and in reality they would not continue without consent. I would not worry about defending that decision or expect sanction. I could argue my case on many levels. The referee may "so order" whatever he wants, he only gets it if the game continues, for that he would in effect need consent.
    Let me see if I understand your position. You are a coach, and your team is dominant in scrums, then safety of players becomes an issue (at least for the referee) and the referee orders uncontested scrums. You then remove your team from the field and "take your ball and go home". What is your argument to the competition committee that your team should receive the points for a win? Or are you so upset that you can't keep dominating scrums in dangerous conditions, that you are willing to take no win points? You can't win the match without your dominant scrum? Now the players don't get the rest of their match, and the subs might not get any playing time. Who does this help other than your ego?

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    Default Re: Uncontested scrums

    Quote Originally Posted by thepercy View Post
    Let me see if I understand your position. You are a coach, and your team is dominant in scrums, then safety of players becomes an issue (at least for the referee) and the referee orders uncontested scrums. You then remove your team from the field and "take your ball and go home". What is your argument to the competition committee that your team should receive the points for a win? Or are you so upset that you can't keep dominating scrums in dangerous conditions, that you are willing to take no win points? You can't win the match without your dominant scrum? Now the players don't get the rest of their match, and the subs might not get any playing time. Who does this help other than your ego?
    Don't forget thathis approach implies little or no consideration for his OWN players' welfare! When a scrum collapses ANY forward(s) from either or both teams could be the one(S) that break(s)s their neck(s).


    All to satify his desire to win the willy waving competition!
    Last edited by Marc Wakeham; 4 Days Ago at 20:06.

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    Default Re: Uncontested scrums

    If we take it as a given that player safety is paramount I would still be loathe to go uncontested with scrums as a result of pitch conditions.

    Either the pitch is safe to play on or its not. To go uncontested may unduly reward a team with a weaker scrum to the point of changing the outcome of the game.

    If the pitch is so bad that its not safe to scrum on it and its a league or cup game (as opposed to a friendly or unimportant game ie dead rubber ) then I would call it off .

    Ive played and reffed on some terrible pitches , none were so bad as to result in uncontested scrums.
    Courage is knowing what lies on the other side and still opening the door !

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