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    Default Re: Uncontested scrums

    Quote Originally Posted by Taff View Post
    Well spotted sir.

    I've often wondered what I would do if scrums became a real issue so it's good to know the law book allows this.
    Are you serious....
    Are you really a referee who didn't know you could order uncontested scrums in certain scenarios?

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    Default Re: Uncontested scrums

    Quote Originally Posted by Decorily View Post
    Are you serious....
    Are you really a referee who didn't know you could order uncontested scrums in certain scenarios?
    The point is, I think, that you can order them in any scenario. Not a power to be used unwisely!
    Be reasonable - do it my way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chbg View Post
    The point is, I think, that you can order them in any scenario. Not a power to be used unwisely!
    in reality there is only one reason why you would that - safety.

    coaches, on the other hand, can take their players off the pitch for any reason they damn well like

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    the main issue I have faced is where a (generally) junior player fesses up that he has never played in the front row before. This is usually about the 4th scrum in and his/her technique has given me some clues
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    Default Re: Uncontested scrums

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickie E View Post
    the main issue I have faced is where a (generally) junior player fesses up that he has never played in the front row before. This is usually about the 4th scrum in and his/her technique has given me some clues
    Usually covered at the FR briefing, and a specific question if a replacement comes on
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    Default Re: Uncontested scrums

    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Wakeham View Post
    The ref can't force the game to go ahead. The coach has the right to consider the pitch unplayable at anytime. I quoted the guden ce that, coachin in the Welsh Championship, you eould be fully aware of (ie Ref says no then the game does not continue / go ahead. EITHER team says no then it does not go ahead / continue).

    If I said to you: "I don't think scrums are safe." and you said: "It's either full or we go off.", I would note your reply in my report. As there is a clear inference that you consider the pitch safe to scrum on but not if no scrums. revealing your "desire" and not your assessment of the pitch.

    Next time you were coaching t a game I was reffing I'm make the UC call for different reasoning than the pitch and they you would be simply refusing to accept the referee's decisions.

    Let me see if i understand your position? So you are going to invent a rule because it was impossible to justify your original decision, further more you are not separating your emotional response to the actual process of implementing the rules. It the same as saying because the away crowd was horrible to you, you penalised the away team more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SimonSmith View Post
    Usually covered at the FR briefing, and a specific question if a replacement comes on
    I always identify how many props and hookers there are at the pre match briefing.

    If a team wants to go uncontested, but hasn't gone through it's reserves I am aware of it.

    If a team indicates it has players that can play in the front row that are different to what they said at the pre match briefing I am aware of it.
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    Default Re: Uncontested scrums

    Quote Originally Posted by Decorily View Post
    Are you serious? Are you really a referee who didn't know you could order uncontested scrums in certain scenarios?
    I was very aware that I could order uncontested scrums in "certain" scenarios. It's good to see though that we can order uncontested scrums in any scenarios if we think it's getting dangerous - even though technically we could play with contested scrums.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taff View Post
    I was very aware that I could order uncontested scrums in "certain" scenarios. It's good to see though that we can order uncontested scrums in any scenarios if we think it's getting dangerous - even though technically we could play with contested scrums.
    Well that answers my question....

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    Default Re: Uncontested scrums

    Quote Originally Posted by Taff View Post
    I was very aware that I could order uncontested scrums in "certain" scenarios. It's good to see though that we can order uncontested scrums in any scenarios if we think it's getting dangerous - even though technically we could play with contested scrums.
    There are two scenarios where you order uncontested scrums:

    1: Where the laws of the game demand it. STE player requirements. (Law 3.13)

    2: Where the laws of the game demand it. Where the referee considers it dangerous to contiune with them. (Law 3.13)

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