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    chalk then for AGPs and boots for turf.

    how many of your refs here actually ref on AGPs out of interest?

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    Regularly here. About a third of the clubs in my area have artificial turf, half of them exclusively. And in Holland, they get used a lot because of drainage issues. Checking my assigned games last season, 6 of 23 were played on plastic.

    Having said that, the pitches are all fairly modern, have rubber or cork beads as the base, and making a mark leaves a faint stripe in the beads for a while on most pitches. Not enough for spectators or TJs to make out, but enough of a visual reminder for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by didds View Post
    chalk then for AGPs and boots for turf.

    how many of your refs here actually ref on AGPs out of interest?

    didds
    I actually practiced on one as far back as 2009: my college club's winter practice was at the football team's indoor facility, which used it to match what they played on. I still have memories of getting those damn pellets in my shoes.

    Up north, a number of high school teams play on them since they play at a school, and schools find them easier to maintain (and have marked up for multiple sports). Closer to home, it's mostly grass. Most districts can't afford the capital investment to switch from grass to AGP. Even if they tried, there would likely be pushback from folks who would object because it "breaks from tradition" or some other happy horseshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil E View Post
    With my Society Vice-Chair hat on...

    Vanishing foam is between £3.60 and £5.99 a tin depending on where you buy it from and how many you order.
    Add on postage.
    Add on £4 for a holster to keep it in.

    Multiply that for the number of active referees in a Society x Games covered each week.

    At a time when Society budgets are being hit hard and funding is slowing down from the RFU who have their own budgetary problems I see this as an unnecessary expense that we can manage without.

    Cost is a valid point. I've yet to find any good reasons being given for not using spay except for this one contribution.

    How long, on average, does a can last?

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    I must say I was thinking about buying my own foam. Same as I buy my own boots, socks, shorts, underwear, leggings, whistle , watch , tj flags and cards


    Perhaps I shouldn't have to

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Wakeham View Post
    Cost is a valid point. I've yet to find any good reasons being given for not using spay except for this one contribution.
    its a sledgehammer to crack a walnut. Let's say the stuff was free. When would you use it? At all penalties? Only shots at goal? Conversions? Only when ABs are playing? Scrums (maybe a long line to show SH what straight is)? Where 10 metres is at penalties, FKs and lineouts?
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    When the ref deems it is needed I would guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Wakeham View Post
    When the ref deems it is needed I would guess.
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    I, for one, like Roman numerals

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dickie E View Post
    But that's England. They wouldn't cheat.
    Along came Lou with old baboon and said I recognise that smell. That smells like seven layers. That beaver eats Taco Bell....- Claypool, LaLonde & Alexander 1995

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    Default Re: Vanishing Foam

    surely stuff like this gets looked at in post match ref briefings? If not, why not?

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