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    Default Re: Jackaling

    Quote Originally Posted by nylluma View Post
    Oh my bad, it's this link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uY1ScwJqTk&t=747s
    So we're always looking for contact, and if there's none, one can play ball, but just standing there won't suffice?
    These things are going to happen so fast that even if you had 10 International Referees watching the same play, I reckon you would get a range of opinions. Personally, I reckon we just need to get it clear in our minds how things are meant to work; ie Did the jackler get his hands on the ball before the ruck formed? Did the next player up stay on his feet and form a ruck? Were the next lot of hands on the ball before or after the ruck formed? If it was before the ruck formed then it's play on - if it was after the ruck formed, then it's a PK offence. For me, I find that thinking "Ruck" quietly in my head when the ruck forms helps because you then look for hands going in after that point. It works for me, but it may not work for you.

    Don't worry yourself over it. I have no doubt some players will question your decision; the only thing you can do is go by what YOU saw .... and be consistent.

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    I thought the Scottish players were unfairly rewarded for setting up a shite ruck.
    I, for one, like Roman numerals

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    Default Re: Jackaling

    Quote Originally Posted by Taff View Post
    But a player doesn't HAVE to bind on to a Jackler over the ball to create a Ruck. Eg if there's a tackled player, ball on the ground and an opposing Jackler, just grabbing the Jackler would create a Ruck because all the requirements are met. Of course you wouldn't win the ball just by grabbing a Jackler (I assume you would want the ball) but you've created a Ruck whether you meant to or not.

    Would it be illegal to grab an opponent that:

    was jackling, and off balance them, away from the breakdown, while you or a teammate stand over the ball, creating a ruck?

    was jackling, and shove them off the ball with hands (not shoulder) knocking them back, stand over the ball and create a ruck?

    without binding per the definitions.

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    Default Re: Jackaling

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickie E View Post
    I thought the Scottish players were unfairly rewarded for setting up a shite ruck.
    Completely agree!
    If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs and blaming it on you... you must be a rugby referee!

    "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity - and I'm not sure about the universe..." - Albert Einstein

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    Default Re: Jackaling

    Munster’s flanker/captain feels the jackal is getting tougher because tackled players are wising up.
    "We demand strict proof for opinions we dislike, but are satisfied with mere hints for what we’re inclined to accept."
    John Henry Newman

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