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    Default Re: Wales quickly taken PK...

    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Wakeham View Post
    If they can't walk the extra distance maybe then need to be carried?

    I'm all for waiting until a HIA is clear of the pitch before starting again. Referees should be managing it anyway.
    i suppose the issue there is its another way to slow the pace of the game right down by a player needing a cart instead of walking 15m to a touchline. But I dont disagree as a general rule.

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    Quote Originally Posted by L'irlandais View Post
    Not sure it’s a good thing, if it allows the non-offending team to dictate the speed of the restart.
    The amendments apply only to elite matches that have been approved for HIA and the use of temporary substitutions.
    Elite squads will always look to turn amendments to their advantage, in the struggle to win by small margins.
    There is no offending team in an HIA and blood

    Note there is nothing about allowing YC player to leave pitch

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    Default Re: Wales quickly taken PK...

    Seems the incident provoked a law change (not for Watson but for the HIA exchange happening at the same time)

    https://www.world.rugby/news/444384?lang=en

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    Quote Originally Posted by crossref View Post
    There is no offending team in an HIA and blood

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    It is easy to imagine a mid-air collision where the reckless party stays down, feigning injury (possible HIA? Possibly blood) to slow the opposition. Negating the opportunity for a quick tap penalty. This is related to Elite rugby, they are quick to get a physio on there, not in the interests of player safety, but in the interests of win whatever the cost.
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    Quote Originally Posted by L'irlandais View Post
    It is easy to imagine a mid-air collision where the reckless party stays down, feigning injury (possible HIA? Possibly blood) to slow the opposition. Negating the opportunity for a quick tap penalty. This is related to Elite rugby, they are quick to get a physio on there, not in the interests of player safety, but in the interests of win whatever the cost.
    note that the HIA/Blood will also delay YOUR OWN PK as well as the oppos.

    ie if I give a PK to Red, but the Red player is bleeding, I need to get the red replacement on the pith before they can take the PK.

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    I have nothing against the idea that the change is good for player safety. However by making it an obligation, then it is open to abuse. In grassroots a suspected concussion means the player goes off. In Elite rugby, they send on the physio, that surely means they suspect he may have suffered a head injury? Then the player should go off and stay off, if they failed to implement the HIa protocol as it was meant to be implemented, why on earth would they adhere to this change any differently ?
    *World Rugby has announced an immediate amendment to Law 3 to stipulate that a match cannot restart until a player leaving the field of play for a blood injury or Head Injury Assessment (HIA) has been temporarily replaced," it said in a statement.

    "The amendment, approved by the international federation's Executive Committee, codifies an area that was previously at the discretion of the referee."


    Anyone forgotten about Quins blood gate yet?
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    Default Re: Wales quickly taken PK...

    On balance, I'd say the law change is a sensible decision (HIA/Blood injury). Yes, it comes with some gamesmanship risks, but given that player safety is No 1 and that we all want to see a fair contest I'm happy with this change

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    Default Re: Wales quickly taken PK...

    The match referee should still have some say in the matter; Scotland physios run on for Stuart Hogg. (2015 Autumn test matches.)

    With the new changes can the ref send the medic off the pitch?
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    Default Re: Wales quickly taken PK...

    Quote Originally Posted by L'irlandais View Post
    The match referee should still have some say in the matter; Scotland physios run on for Stuart Hogg. (2015 Autumn test matches.)

    With the new changes can the ref send the medic off the pitch?
    We generally play on don't we

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    Default Re: Wales quickly taken PK...

    Quote Originally Posted by L'irlandais View Post
    It is easy to imagine a mid-air collision where the reckless party stays down, feigning injury (possible HIA? Possibly blood) to slow the opposition. Negating the opportunity for a quick tap penalty. This is related to Elite rugby, they are quick to get a physio on there, not in the interests of player safety, but in the interests of win whatever the cost.
    So are we focusing on safety or another potential bloodgate incident? I think the sanctions from that were quite stringent and likely to deter similar offences.

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