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    Default Re: YC return

    If his (YC player) time is up then he should be allowed back on and rejoin the game, including taking the conversion kick. If there had been a long period of uninterrupted play and he's been in the bin 12-13 minutes shouldn't he be allowed back on at the next dead ball (and a try is a dead ball)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisR View Post
    If his (YC player) time is up then he should be allowed back on and rejoin the game, including taking the conversion kick. If there had been a long period of uninterrupted play and he's been in the bin 12-13 minutes shouldn't he be allowed back on at the next dead ball (and a try is a dead ball)?
    That's an easy one, yes

    It's when he has been in the bin 09:50 that the conundrum arises

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    Default Re: YC return

    Is there a World Rugby decision on this, or precedent from a game?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackberry View Post
    Is there a World Rugby decision on this, or precedent from a game?
    Only my game !

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    Default Re: YC return

    Are you really counting YC to the second when you are solely responsible for time, score and all other aspects of the game?

    I'm looking at the big figure on my watch. If he went off when the clock shows 22, he can come back on when it shows 32 or beyond!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderhorse1986 View Post
    Are you really counting YC to the second when you are solely responsible for time, score and all other aspects of the game?

    I'm looking at the big figure on my watch. If he went off when the clock shows 22, he can come back on when it shows 32 or beyond!

    K.I.S.S.
    What if it says 31 ? They have 90s to make the kick right.

    What if there was a big stadium clock so everyone could see the time?

    Is it ok that some of your YC last 9 minutes and others last 11min ?
    Last edited by crossref; 1 Day Ago at 09:10.

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    Default Re: YC return

    At the community level of the game the referee will determine the time and nobody is really in a position to argue. Unless of course it is completely way out. At L4 and above we are starting to have more consequences of having incorrect return times. Here we start having people’s salary at stake if nothing else. We also start having consequences related to sponsorship if the mistiming causes a result that has impact on relegation or promotion etc. As the value of the timing goes up so the decision as to when return must be be more accurate/precise. I mention L4 and above because all games at this level in RFU land are filmed and can be monitored.

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    Yes and even at my lowly level I know perfectly well that I can get away with either decision ... But I would like to know what is the correct decision .. as that's the one I will give , if I can.

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    Default Re: YC return

    I don't think there is a 'correct' decision, when it gets complex you just have your decision having balanced everything up.

    Eg yesterday, U17 game, challenges in the scrum with opposing FR, choose not to listen in terms of height and binding (both decide it's each others fault), that ends in some niggle, a warning, then handbags so 2x YC. I didn't want the first phase after they came back on to be another scrum and risk more aggro, so I tried to 'manage' the 7 minutes being up to better suit me. Ultimately I couldn't get away with it as crap conditions and scrums everywhere.

    The by the book decision is bang on 7 minutes, but you might want to redefine 'correct' to suit!

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    I think that's a very very different scenario.

    Even so, if it was me then when the time was up I would let them on .

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