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    Default Re: RWC Japan 2019 - Business

    Quote Originally Posted by Ian_Cook View Post
    Making the groups six instead of five does not add to the length of the tournament. In a group of five, four teams play and one team doesn't. In a group of six, all teams play on each playing day.

    RWC could be run over six weeks like this.

    1. Six teams in each group (five rounds of group play spans four weeks)
    2. Playing only on the weekends with a minimum of six days turnaround (Sunday to Saturday/Saturday to Friday).
    3. Ditch the quarter finals, the group winners go straight to the semi final in week five
    4. Final and Bronze medal match in week six

    You can have quarter finals by extending the tournament one week.
    Well your groups of six are indeed taking up an extra week, compared to the current groups of five .

    I think the problem with this is too many dead rubber games , if only one team (from six) qualifies out of the group a large proportion of the games will be played with one or both teams mathematically unable to qualify

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    Default Re: RWC Japan 2019 - Business

    Quote Originally Posted by Ian_Cook View Post
    Making the groups six instead of five does not add to the length of the tournament. In a group of five, four teams play and one team doesn't. In a group of six, all teams play on each playing day.

    RWC could be run over six weeks like this.

    1. Six teams in each group (five rounds of group play spans four weeks)
    2. Playing only on the weekends with a minimum of six days turnaround (Sunday to Saturday/Saturday to Friday).
    3. Ditch the quarter finals, the group winners go straight to the semi final in week five
    4. Final and Bronze medal match in week six

    You can have quarter finals by extending the tournament one week.
    I think almost guaranteeing that a loss in pool play knocks you out isn't the greatest solution. I think carrying the top 2 is still the way to go. Getting other parties on board with the extra week is the rub though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smeagol View Post
    I think almost guaranteeing that a loss in pool play knocks you out isn't the greatest solution. I think carrying the top 2 is still the way to go. Getting other parties on board with the extra week is the rub though.

    I think I could make the argument to clubs that letting the tournament run an extra week would benefit them

    1. Players are less likely to suffer injuries due to longer turnaround times between games
    2. Players would come back from the tournament fresher, and able to step right back into club rugby
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    Quote Originally Posted by L'irlandais View Post
    In the second half Namibia’s winger Lesley Klim comes on. No wonder these second/third tier nations are struggling, their star players are at the mercy of foreign clubs.
    Stuart Hogg started tonight for Exeter, didn't he?
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    Quite possibly, however it’s a shame the regulations don’t concern (very much) themselves with recuperation.
    Resumption of duty with Rugby Body or Club
    9.23 If a Union repeatedly breaches the Resumption of Duty provisions in Regulations 9.21 and 9.22 then the Union concerned may be subject to sanctions. Such sanctions may include, but shall not be limited to, fines, reduction in Release entitlements and/or prohibitions on calling up Players.

    That’s within 60 hours after an International Match.

    C. World Rugby and Unions recognise that the Right to Release for Matches should be exercised reasonably and with due regard to the proper interests of the welfare of Players and other relevant entities who may be affected. This Regulation 9 reflects this balance, accommodates the difference in arrangements and sport structure from Union to Union and respects the position of Rugby Bodies and Clubs whilst recognising the fundamental role that international Rugby plays in the development of the sport worldwide. The Regulation has also been prepared on the basis that in light of the nature and physicality of the Game Players should have appropriate rest, recuperation and recovery opportunities so that when they participate in the Game they are able to do so at their best.

    What constitutes “appropriate rest, recuperation and recovery opportunities” I wonder?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SimonSmith View Post
    Stuart Hogg started tonight for Exeter, didn't he?
    It seems Exeter may be a point in question. Like it, or loathe, Player welfare is becoming a big issue.
    IRFU leading way in approach to player welfare management
    World Rugby's dire warning likely directed at England players in Premiership

    Leading players campaigning for fewer matches and shorter seasons were already warned last year by Exeter coach Rob Baxter to wake up to the economic realities.
    Premiership players’ game time is far too high, when you take the increasing number of International matches into account.
    “My view is that players cannot carry on playing as they are now. You cannot have them playing 30-odd competitive club and international games just because you want bums on seats,” Pichot said this week.
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    The FiFA world cup is grOwing to 48 teams !

    16 groups of three, then a round of 32

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    Default Re: RWC Japan 2019 - Business

    Three groups of 16 based on current rankings.

    First group:
    New Zealand, England, Wales, RSA, Ireland, Australia, France, Japan, Scotland, Argentina. Our problems start here already, Fiji, Italy, Tonga, Georgia, Samoa and Spain.


    Second group:
    USA, Uruguay, Romania, Russia, Portugal, Canada, Namibia, Hong Kong, Netherlands, Brazil, Belgium, Germany, Chile, Switzerland, Korea and Kenya


    Third group:
    Colombia, Zimbabwe, Poland, Czechia, Lithuania, Ukraine, Malta, Tunisia, Uganda, Philippines, Cote D’Ivoire, Mexico, Croatia, Paraguay, Sri Lanka and Morocco.
    We have not enough money in XV to fill a single group of 16 teams. The gap between the top ten and the following 6 teams is too great. Even if Morocco at 48th could afford a touring side, who would they play to improve their level?
    Morocco traditionally sees neighbours Spain as their rivals. Morocco last made the first division in 1983 but was beaten easily by France and Romania.
    Union since 1900
    Registered players: 6,233
    Clubs: 20
    34 International matches during the 4 year world cup cycle, is beyond any of the Pacific Nations.
    Let WR concentrate any funding on Unions who can make the grade. Expanding the game to have 16 tier one teams worthy of the name, needs to be the first priority. Lesser nations might be prepared to invest if the prize was more prestigious, rather than more attainable. The mere fact Spain (16) and Morocca (48) are rivals is worrying for the sport. Number 16 should be out of their league.

    Rugby is the national sport in Fiji, with 80,000 players if you take school sports into account.
    Clubs: 560
    First played: 1884
    Registered players: 37,570 (total); 8,770 (adult)
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