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    Default Re: Offside or not

    Even if it was a chargedown becket, G7 is offside, if he plays the ball. If it comes to him at speed and he instinctively caught it, I'd probably give accidental offside, scrum.
    As described, it's clearly a penalty
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    Default Re: Offside or not

    Quote Originally Posted by ctrainor View Post
    Even if it was a chargedown becket, G7 is offside, if he plays the ball. If it comes to him at speed and he instinctively caught it, I'd probably give accidental offside, scrum.
    As described, it's clearly a penalty
    The question is .. did he actually PLAY the ball ?
    (the ball just hit him)

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    Default Re: Offside or not

    Play on ..

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    Default Re: Offside or not

    If you decide that he did not play it intentionally, and therefore none of his team-mates will be off-side, good game management would be to inform both teams ("not played, play on"?), in the same way that you might call a fingertip touch of a kick that puts all the other team on-side ("touched"). If it all occurs too quickly for you, then an equitable re-start would be a scrum, as it is such an esoteric aspect of the Laws.
    Be reasonable - do it my way.

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    Default Re: Offside or not

    a corollary to this.

    Crossref's fly hack happens outside 22 and the rebound off Green 10 goes into Red 22.

    Can Red then get gain in ground if they kick the ball into touch?
    I, for one, like Roman numerals

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    Default Re: Offside or not

    Accidental offside, scrum.

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    Default Re: Offside or not

    Quote Originally Posted by beckett50 View Post
    Did you judge that the Green player attempted a Charge Down? If you did then his teammate is on-side.

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    rethink that, please

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    Default Re: Offside or not

    Quote Originally Posted by Drift View Post
    Accidental offside, scrum.
    What's the reasoning for that ?

    G7 was not acting instinctively, it wasn't one of those one where the ball comes at him and he catches it ... he had every chance to leave the ball alone , but instead he gathered it off the floor

    So if he WAS offside , its a PK .
    If if he wasn't offside its play on

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    Default Re: Offside or not

    Letter of the law seems clearly "play on", but I agree with chbg - if you haven't called it one way or the other, and have blown the whistle already, an equitable restart would be a scrum.

    The question then is: scrum to red for accidental offside (which it isn't, but is probably expected and could be sold at most levels) or restart scrum to green as the side going forward, or scrum to attacking team..?

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    Default Re: Offside or not

    Quote Originally Posted by Rich_NL View Post
    Letter of the law seems clearly "play on", but I agree with chbg - if you haven't called it one way or the other, and have blown the whistle already, an equitable restart would be a scrum.

    The question then is: scrum to red for accidental offside (which it isn't, but is probably expected and could be sold at most levels) or restart scrum to green as the side going forward, or scrum to attacking team..?
    If yo utry to "sell" it like this you are going to have to have a good story. It is either Offside or play on. Once you blow it is either PK or scrum against the play you felt was offside.

    The only way to sell the bold is to say: "Guys I cocked up! I should not have blown so we restart..etc....". You don't come out of that well.

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