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    Default Re: RSA vs ITA - Uncontested Scrums?

    Quote Originally Posted by Decorily View Post
    ...and we all know commentators are always correct with their assertions!
    I know right! But he was pretty insistent, saying it twice. Reading between the lines, I suspected he was getting as close as he could to calling Italy cheats without actually doing so.
    Does anyone have the match time of the incident? I might still have it recorded...

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    Default Re: RSA vs ITA - Uncontested Scrums?

    Eighteen minutes I think ??

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    Default Re: RSA vs ITA - Uncontested Scrums?

    Quote Originally Posted by crossref View Post
    Eighteen minutes I think ??
    Thanks, I'll take a look.
    [LATER]
    Ooo yes, I found it - it's at 13:40 (but 18 mins was close enough to help me find it, thanks again crossref).
    I was completely and utterly wrong (and so was the commentator)!
    The replay in slow-mo shows definite impact to the head and a kind of head-snap that could easily lead to a concussion or suspected concussion.
    To be fair to the commentator, at full speed the impact seemed to be on the shoulder - and the trainer came on and gave him spray and an ice pack to his midriff!!
    Last edited by belladonna; 04-10-19 at 23:10.

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    Default Re: RSA vs ITA - Uncontested Scrums?

    Has there been anymore comments on this incident (un contested scrums)?

    Was there a change a while back, something around the lines of a player with a head injury being "forced" to come back so his team don't go to 14?
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    Default Re: RSA vs ITA - Uncontested Scrums?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheBFG View Post
    Has there been anymore comments on this incident (un contested scrums)?

    Was there a change a while back, something around the lines of a player with a head injury being "forced" to come back so his team don't go to 14?
    apparently the latest protocols form WR cover this, and you don't go to 14 in the case of a head injury. But I don't think that protocol is published anywhere (?)

    AIUI had they had the head injury first, followed by a hamstring they would have been down to 14

    There are a lot of advantages in failing an HIA , especially if it doesn't necessarily mean any subsequent time away from playing or trading
    Last edited by crossref; 09-10-19 at 12:10.

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    Default Re: RSA vs ITA - Uncontested Scrums?

    Quote Originally Posted by Flish View Post
    Not quite
    That says that a substituted player can come back on to replace someone with a head injury

    (So they can bring the original prop back on)

    It doesn't say whether or not man off applies when you have to go to uncontested. (Becauae the original prop is also injured)

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    Default Re: RSA vs ITA - Uncontested Scrums?

    Ah, ok, no I can't see that, doesn't surprise me mind as man off is more entwined with competition regs than law so would possibly be published elsewhere

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flish View Post
    Ah, ok, no I can't see that, doesn't surprise me mind as man off is more entwined with competition regs than law so would possibly be published elsewhere
    Indeed. I think this is the casw

    Although WR don't always need tournament regs as they write the laws to be how they want their tournaments to run.

    It makes some sense to make an exception for HIA

    But it makes no sense for
    head followed by hamstring = man off 14 players
    hamstring followed by head = 15

    In general manoff seems to be going out of fashion isn't it ?
    My local leagues are increasingly abandoning it.
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    Default Re: RSA vs ITA - Uncontested Scrums?

    I am not sure the Tournament regulations make any mention of it. So current Laws apply, right?

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