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    Default Re: So, about this framework then...

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickie E View Post
    all I can fathom is that it was viewed as a "reactionary" tackle (ie a loose forward's desperate attempt to tackle an outside back). YMMV though.
    That was how I saw it. On a gut basis, it didn’t feel like a red-like level of viciousness. Seen once in real time on a Saturday afternoon, I would likely be thinking YC, framework or not.

    It was certainly nothing compared to the French #5!

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    Two players moving in the same direction. So a reduced "closing" speed. Always likely to make it look less than the protocol sets out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dickie E View Post
    all I can fathom is that it was viewed as a "reactionary" tackle (ie a loose forward's desperate attempt to tackle an outside back). YMMV though.
    Having not seen the tackle. Two thoughts:

    1 Positive in defence of Moriarty

    He's just come on and getting to the pace etc. I can see how the above view point could be arrived at.

    2 Negative / against Moriarty

    He's got "form" for "saying hello".

    Overall I will air on the side of "he was probably a very lucky boy" until I see the incident at least.

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    Moriarty's nickname from another forum - Ross Liability.

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    Default Re: So, about this framework then...

    Quote Originally Posted by Pablo View Post
    That was how I saw it. On a gut basis, it didn’t feel like a red-like level of viciousness. Seen once in real time on a Saturday afternoon, I would likely be thinking YC, framework or not.
    I agree. It certainly looked yellow to me. But interesting to test it against the framework. If it had been red, very likely to have changred the outcome of the game.
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    For me it probably lacked the degree of dsnger for a red as they were bothheading in the same direction. But it could have been red.

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    Default Re: So, about this framework then...

    We did a bit on the High Tackle/Shoulder Charge Framework at last week's YRS meeting - watching clips and trying to apply it.

    The clips we had were fine and we all "correctly" applied the Framework.

    My concern is in the real world we have one look at this stuff and we don't have the "luxury" of talking to Ben Skeen et al.

    Personally I though RM's tackle of Fickou was a YC but appreciate a chug through the framework could lead to settling on a RC.

    The really dangerous stuff can go "unnoticed".

    Eng v Arg in the pool stages - Lavanini clatters into Owen Farrell. Nigel sees it, shouts "play on, no foul play" or words to that effect.

    Fast forward and after TMO review Lavanini gets a RC and subsequently a 4 week ban.

    What hope the rest of us?
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    And what about in Wales v France, three neck rolls in quick succession by France, resulting in just three penalties?!? No verbal cautions, no cards.

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