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    Default So, about this framework then...

    We are well into the trial RWC now and have seen the framework in action

    Is it working ? Have we got fewer concussions?
    Should we keep it? Does it need tweaking ?
    Does it just need longer to bed in?
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    Default Re: So, about this framework then...

    Concussions I don't know, and I don't think the RWC is an accurate guide as there is so much pressure to keep players playing.

    I think in the short term it was disruptive to introduce a framework so soon before the WC, in a sense tying the referees' hands just before the most visible matches there can be. Long-term it's an excellent high-profile way to send a message (like the Warburton tip tackle).

    Grassroots I've not had to give a card for high tackles in five games this season - besides a mandatory for a penalty try, but no head contact, only a couple of penalties for seatbelt tackles. I don't know what others think, but it looks from here like coaches and players have got the message.

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    Default Re: So, about this framework then...

    Quote Originally Posted by Rich_NL View Post
    Grassroots I've not had to give a card for high tackles in five games this season - besides a mandatory for a penalty try, but no head contact, only a couple of penalties for seatbelt tackles. I don't know what others think, but it looks from here like coaches and players have got the message.
    ... and any that have yet to get the message, will get it when, week after week, they find their team consistently with a couple of players sitting on seats on the sideline and only 13/14 players in the field.
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    Default Re: So, about this framework then...

    I have given a high tackle YC in *every* game so far. .. but that probably doesn't signify much

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    Default Re: So, about this framework then...

    At least in grassroots we dont have super super super slow mo looking for the merest brush on someones chin.

    We are still in the "if it looks bad it probably is" and only true thuggery is a red, not incidental contact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian_Cook View Post
    ... and any that have yet to get the message, will get it when, week after week, they find their team consistently with a couple of players sitting on seats on the sideline and only 13/14 players in the field.
    And then players will walk away from the game. When cards are given for accidents not thuggery why bother when you can go and play league, and at least here not have to travel as far for a game and maybe get paid some beer money

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    Default Re: So, about this framework then...

    I think the sensible players will welcome being able to enjoy a beer or two after the game rather than suffer concussion. If people prefer to hit high for beer money, they are problably the people we don't want in the game anyway.

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    So the framework perhaps needs to address head on head clashes..

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    Default Re: So, about this framework then...

    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Wakeham View Post
    I think the sensible players will welcome being able to enjoy a beer or two after the game rather than suffer concussion. If people prefer to hit high for beer money, they are problably the people we don't want in the game anyway.
    I said accidents. Anyway we will never agree so doesnt matter

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    Default Re: So, about this framework then...

    This is a much bigger issue than any one person's opinion.
    Rugby mums have to be taken into consideration. Fewer and fewer are happy sending their children out to play a sport in which they can suffer serious and irreparable harm.
    And, Rugby has a duty of care to its participants. Which could get legal, quite apart from the moral duty.
    How many more players have to get MND before something happens?
    Doddie Weir, Joost vd Westhuizen...

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