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    Default End of Game - Did I get it Right?

    Always happy to admit I may have got it wrong nad therby learn and this weekend I had just such an occasion. All insights appreciated to the following scenario:

    Last play of the game and I award a penalty to red who kick for touch and take the have a line out in blue 22
    Red knock on in the line out, ball still alive, advantage to blue
    Blue spin the ball down the line and are advancing (well moving sideway) when blue captain alerts me to one of their players who is down injurd, allegedly for a late hit, but unseen by me and no ARs
    Hame stopped and player safety checked; after a few minutes he is off the pitch
    At this stage I called time, my rationale was that the ball was dead, but was I correct (I had not called 'advantage over')?

    Many thanks
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    Default Re: End of Game - Did I get it Right?

    I think you are technically correct. It's unlucky for blue to suffer the injury, but ...

    In some scenarios perhaps you could restart anyway - did the players know time had elapsed ? Was a it league game or friendly ? would both teams have actually been happy to continue ? how bad was the injury? Would re-starting merely be the opportunity for revenge ?

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    Default Re: End of Game - Did I get it Right?

    As above, technically the game was over (it would be a scrum restart), however only you know the time, I wouldn’t argue if you choose to restart, I wouldn’t necessarily advertise the fact time was over though

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    Default Re: End of Game - Did I get it Right?

    Why did you stop play? Was the injury serious? Was there risk to the injured player or medical staff in continuing to play? Why did Blue, with possession of the ball want play to be stopped?

    I am not a fan of keeping the time a secret, then making up laws to suit your sense of justice.

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    Default Re: End of Game - Did I get it Right?

    All players knew we were into final play and the game, (league) was a draw as a result, as you can probably imagine it was tense and Red were happy for the game to end! I saw no option but to stop for the injury, having been made aware of it, as the player was flat out on the ground and no medical staff were attending to him. I suspect Blue might have been hoping for a penalty, but since I did not see the incident, all I could do was check he was OK.

    I ran the decision through in my head before making it, accepting that it would draw some complaints. Your feedback is much appreciated

    Many thanks
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    I think you were exactly right.
    Unfortunate for blue.

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    Good decision Gracie. Player safety paramount.
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    Many thanks guys - the insight od the ref community is always useful

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    Default Re: End of Game - Did I get it Right?

    There was a thread on this a while back. I was in the minority when I said that play should have restarted.

    This happened in a Super Rugby game in the last 2-3 years. On that occasion the ref (Gardner?) Said that he would not end the game with a scrum which he blew because an injured player was in the way. He said that would be unfair. He played the scrum, even though time had expired. He was unapologetic.

    Personally I agree with this. No one has infringed and it seems wholly unfair to end the game when play was stopped on the discretion of the referee, and not due to an infringement.

    I am happy to be criticised.
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    Default Re: End of Game - Did I get it Right?

    I remember that .

    I think where the Laws are clear we have to ref to the Laws

    If the Law is unfair it's up to WR to change it . Not stopping on an injury would be a good change

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