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    An unwelcome first today, player lost his rag, full on spat at an opponent, then proceeded to challenge everyone on the pitch to a fight - seemed an easy red at the time and no one questioned it.

    Filling in the report I struggled to pigeon hole it under law 9 though (I went with unsportsmanlike conduct), and it started me second guessing, any reason you wouldn’t go red?

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    100% red card every time.

    Call it unsportsmanlike conduct and physical abuse. Sounds like there was also verbal abuse after that too. I understand police deem a spit an assault, so perhaps use that as an indication you can say physical abuse.

    For your report make sure you describe in detail what happened so the panel can assess both the appropriate offence and the (lengthy) ban to give.

    (And please number your paragraphs in the report - it makes ta contested hearing so much easier to conduct).
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    As described....nailed on RED!

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    Default Re: Spitting - Red Card?

    Quote Originally Posted by Flish View Post
    An unwelcome first today, player lost his rag, full on spat at an opponent, then proceeded to challenge everyone on the pitch to a fight - seemed an easy red at the time and no one questioned it.

    Filling in the report I struggled to pigeon hole it under law 9 though (I went with unsportsmanlike conduct), and it started me second guessing, any reason you wouldn’t go red?
    You sound like you may be doubting yourself.... no way.

    Well done....

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    Default Re: Spitting - Red Card?

    I think it would come under 9.12

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    definite red unless he was trying to get out "Sufferin' Succotash"
    I, for one, like Roman numerals

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    Default Re: Spitting - Red Card?

    I think you could go with 9.12 or 9.27

    Try both? Try whatever has the highest TE sanction? Or leave it to the DP.

    As soon as you get to the gob and challenging everyone to a fight the DP will find a way. In my Society we do not send our RC reports straight to the DP we do it via the Hon Soc Sec. I would do the same or whatever it takes to make sure matey gets his head nailed to the floor.

    Anyway I refer my honourable fiend to his own statement from thread "Where are you this weekend?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee Lifeson-Peart View Post

    ....my honourable fiend.... [/I]
    Freudian slip!

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    WR have it in Reg 17 as 9.27:
    9.27 A player must not do anything that is against the spirit of good sportsmanship including but not limited to:
    Hair pulling or grabbing Low-end:
    2 weeks
    Mid-range:
    4 weeks
    Top-end:
    6+ weeks
    Max:
    52 weeks
    Spitting at anyone Low-end:
    4 weeks
    Mid-range:
    8 weeks
    Top-end:
    12+ weeks
    Max:
    52 weeks
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