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    Default Puzzled by decision to disallow Ben Youngs' 'try' last Saturday..?

    I'm not clear as to why Ben Youngs' try on Saturday was disallowed, after a maul was advancing towards the line.. is it not the case that you can 'pass' the ball forward as well as back in a maul - provided you remain bound? Yes, there was the suspicion of a fumble but the ball remained off the ground and it seemed that the player was bound..

    Unfortunately I could not hear what Owens was saying when he explained the decision to Farrell, and I may have missed a law change somewhere - but cannot find chapter and verse either way in the Law book..

    Can anyone put me straight?

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    Default Re: Puzzled by decision to disallow Ben Youngs' 'try' last Saturday..?

    There is another thread on this incident.
    You cannot pass the ball forward in a maul.

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    Default Re: Puzzled by decision to disallow Ben Youngs' 'try' last Saturday..?

    well you can and I am sure it does happen, particularly with very old fashioned rolling mauls where the two team mates spin and end up facing opposite directions while both holding the ball. So the bloke in front ebcomes the rear of the two and vice versa and the ball has in effect been transferred forwards. hey ho

    But of course nobody sees them mostly so nobody gets blown for it.

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    Default Re: Puzzled by decision to disallow Ben Youngs' 'try' last Saturday..?

    Quote Originally Posted by Decorily View Post
    There is another thread on this incident.
    You cannot pass the ball forward in a maul.
    Well I always thought you could, as long as you are bound.. can you point me at the relevant section?

    And thanks for the reply!

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    Default Re: Puzzled by decision to disallow Ben Youngs' 'try' last Saturday..?

    A forward pass inside a maul. .. when the ball cam out of the back anyway ..

    The gotcha to end all gotchas

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    Quote Originally Posted by didds View Post
    well you can and I am sure it does happen, particularly with very old fashioned rolling mauls where the two team mates spin and end up facing opposite directions while both holding the ball. So the bloke in front ebcomes the rear of the two and vice versa and the ball has in effect been transferred forwards. hey ho

    But of course nobody sees them mostly so nobody gets blown for it.

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    We discussed the spinning scenario here (not inside a maul , in a tackle) ... I think in that similar scenario I was the only one tempted to call it forward , the overwhelming view was not forward , play on

    http://www.rugbyrefs.com/showthread....int+possession
    Last edited by crossref; 29-10-19 at 11:10.

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    Default Re: Puzzled by decision to disallow Ben Youngs' 'try' last Saturday..?

    Quote Originally Posted by rumaer View Post
    Well I always thought you could, as long as you are bound.. can you point me at the relevant section?

    And thanks for the reply!
    The same law that outlaws passing the ball forward in all other modes of play applies...
    Does the ball sometimes get 'passed' forward in a dynamic maul (as referenced above )... yes probably, but that doesn't mean it's legal.

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    Default Re: Puzzled by decision to disallow Ben Youngs' 'try' last Saturday..?

    Quote Originally Posted by Decorily View Post
    The same law that outlaws passing the ball forward in all other modes of play applies...
    Does the ball sometimes get 'passed' forward in a dynamic maul (as referenced above )... yes probably, but that doesn't mean it's legal.
    I wish you had been there in the spinning thread, on my side :-)

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    Default Re: Puzzled by decision to disallow Ben Youngs' 'try' last Saturday..?

    It's generally not permitted in other situations, and there is no law that states an exception. I think it is just that it is rarely spotted.

    For me it was not clear and obvious whether it was passed forward or ripped and regathered.

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