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    Both of those

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Wakeham View Post
    You dont have to kick PKs etc you can tap and and pass etc. You have to kick the others at least 10 metres. Sorry I thought the inference was there. It made it clear to me when I was told it.
    a bit like the mnemonic I before E...
    ...except in a zeitgeist of feisty counterfeit heifer protein freight heists reining in weird deified beige beings and their veiny and eidetic atheist foreign schlockmeister neighbors, either aweigh with feigned absenteeism, seized by heightened heirloom forfeitures (albeit deigned under a kaleidoscope ceiling weighted by seismic geisha keister sleighs) or leisurely reimbursing sovereign receipt or surveillance of eight veiled and neighing Rottweilers, herein referred to as their caffeinated sheik's Weimaraner poltergeist wieners from the Pleiades.
    I, for one, like Roman numerals

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taff View Post
    You'd be surprised how many coaches, players etc don't know this.
    And the odd referee...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dickie E View Post
    a bit like the mnemonic I before E...
    ...except in a zeitgeist of feisty counterfeit heifer protein freight heists reining in weird deified beige beings and their veiny and eidetic atheist foreign schlockmeister neighbors, either aweigh with feigned absenteeism, seized by heightened heirloom forfeitures (albeit deigned under a kaleidoscope ceiling weighted by seismic geisha keister sleighs) or leisurely reimbursing sovereign receipt or surveillance of eight veiled and neighing Rottweilers, herein referred to as their caffeinated sheik's Weimaraner poltergeist wieners from the Pleiades.
    Nothing like it really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Wakeham View Post
    Nothing like it really.
    yes it is. You're using a mnemonic that has exceptions. All well & good if it helps you, but I wouldn't be selling it as a panacea.
    I, for one, like Roman numerals

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dickie E View Post
    a bit like the mnemonic I before E...
    ...except in a zeitgeist of feisty counterfeit heifer protein freight heists reining in weird deified beige beings and their veiny and eidetic atheist foreign schlockmeister neighbors, either aweigh with feigned absenteeism, seized by heightened heirloom forfeitures (albeit deigned under a kaleidoscope ceiling weighted by seismic geisha keister sleighs) or leisurely reimbursing sovereign receipt or surveillance of eight veiled and neighing Rottweilers, herein referred to as their caffeinated sheik's Weimaraner poltergeist wieners from the Pleiades.
    The full mnemonic I learned was "When the sound is 'ee', I before E except after C."

    That knocks out most (but not all) of your counter-examples.
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    A little unhelpful to draw parallels between the LoTG and language learning mnemonics.

    There are no hard and fast rules to English grammar, but rather useful guidelines we traditionally teach students to help them decide for themselves what they’d like to say and how they’d like to say it. The Laws of Rugby Union are not entirely like that. By which, I mean if we left it up to the players which Laws they would like to apply to the game it’d be absolute anarchy.

    Grammar police, MUST read this article before replying.
    When I tried to suggest that her students could be just as polite saying, ‘Can you help me? I want to …,’ she looked at me incredulously, finding it hard to believe that a ‘Can you …’ phrase would be as polite as a ‘I was wondering if you could …’ phrase …

    After all, that’s not what the coursebooks say!

    I find myself being reminded of the story of Pygmalion, the sculptor who carved a woman out of ivory, and then fell in love with it.

    Like Pygmalion, we created something that worked for us … and we’ve fallen in love with it. We made the description of language simple so that more of us could understand it. But now, that description has now become the rule and we find ourselves fervently correcting others’ ‘mistakes’ and applying the rules as if they were there from the beginning.

    Are we inherently perpetuating our own myths about language?
    Extract for those who won’t.

    We all have stuff that works for us, but the Law book is still the primary source for learners.
    We all make mistakes, both on the field of play and off (at the bar afterwards.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dickie E View Post
    yes it is. You're using a mnemonic that has exceptions. All well & good if it helps you, but I wouldn't be selling it as a panacea.
    Where are the exceptions. A Kick off or a restart must be kicked in the direction of the other side over a distance of at least 10 metres. The others can be "tapped". Very different animals. I'm sure you can see the difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Wakeham View Post
    Where are the exceptions. A Kick off or a restart must be kicked in the direction of the other side over a distance of at least 10 metres. The others can be "tapped". Very different animals. I'm sure you can see the difference.
    You would accept a 'tap' for a 22 Drop Out?

    Not under my definition.
    Be reasonable - do it my way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Wakeham View Post
    Where are the exceptions. A Kick off or a restart must be kicked in the direction of the other side over a distance of at least 10 metres. The others can be "tapped". Very different animals. I'm sure you can see the difference.
    here's a new improved version for you:

    "If it must go 10, either drop kick or punt,
    If you award a mark, then you are a ... poor referee."

    Of course, you're forgetting that a 22 drop out must go at least 10 metres before it can and may be successfully marked.
    I, for one, like Roman numerals

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