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    Question Pro14 Munster versus Ulster

    After five minutes of play
    Ulster's line-speed making it hard for Munster to spread the ball wide. Luke Marshall steps in and makes an interception and then Cooney swiftly kicks - he's in Faf de Klerk mood - behind the Munster winger.

    However, he misjudges and the ball finds touch on the full. Back for a Munster lineout close to halfway.
    Ulster’s substitutes were very “helpful” in catching the ball as it lands in touch. Effectively, preventing the Munster cover from taking a quick throw in, despite Red being on the spot.

    Is there any thing the match ref can do to dissuade the bench from this sort of gamesmanship?
    Not cynical, but done in full knowledge that it prevents the quick throw.
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    Default Re: Pro14 Munster versus Ulster

    If they were in their tec zone I can't really see that it was 'wrong'

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    Default Re: Pro14 Munster versus Ulster

    Quote Originally Posted by L'irlandais View Post
    After five minutes of play
    Ulster's line-speed making it hard for Munster to spread the ball wide. Luke Marshall steps in and makes an interception and then Cooney swiftly kicks - he's in Faf de Klerk mood - behind the Munster winger.

    However, he misjudges and the ball finds touch on the full. Back for a Munster lineout close to halfway.
    Ulster’s substitutes were very “helpful” in catching the ball as it lands in touch. Effectively, preventing the Munster cover from taking a quick throw in, despite Red being on the spot.

    Is there any thing the match ref can do to dissuade the bench from this sort of gamesmanship?
    Not cynical, but done in full knowledge that it prevents the quick throw.
    Yes , Alain Rolland (I think it was) once gave Will Skinner a RC for doing that (after a previous warning to a physio for the same thing

    (And it IS cycnical!)

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    Default Re: Pro14 Munster versus Ulster

    Is it cynical if players in a tech zone don't move and the ball hits them - surely we aren't expecting players who are in the area (that we tell them they are required to be in) to move out of that space in order to avoid a ball.
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    Default Re: Pro14 Munster versus Ulster

    Quote Originally Posted by Decorily View Post
    If they were in their tec zone I can't really see that it was 'wrong'
    Players are not allowed in the Technical Zone here.

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    Default Re: Pro14 Munster versus Ulster

    Where do your subs sit / stand?

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    Default Re: Pro14 Munster versus Ulster

    Outside the roped off area.

    We had a memo sent out on Friday on the subject.

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    Default Re: Pro14 Munster versus Ulster

    At Thomond Park it’s East terrace - either side of the tunnel at halfway.

    On such a bitterly cold night it’s not unusual to see the substitutes warming up on the side line. Subs are not taking part in the game, and so it’s unsportsmanlike to prevent a player from taking advantage of his opportunity to take a quick throw in and exploit one of the rare errors from the opposition’s fly half. Kicking it out on the full, means most of the opposition team are not expecting a counterattack at that moment in time.

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    Default Re: Pro14 Munster versus Ulster

    Quote Originally Posted by L'irlandais View Post
    Kicking it out on the full, means most of the opposition team are not expecting a counterattack at that moment in time.
    Any coach worth their salt would be bashing it into their players that unless the ball is dead - be ready for a counter attack.

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    I was watching blue v red on Saturday (level 3). Blue kick penalty. Red winger jumps, knock it back into play where red full back caught it, and counter attacked. Blue caught flat footed and led to a score.

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