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    Default Re: Folauís online comments have taken a turn for the worse.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ian_Cook View Post
    Definitely an over-reaction by some, but I'd hardly call them the "militant left".
    It is leftist idelogy.

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    Default Re: Folauís online comments have taken a turn for the worse.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ian_Cook View Post
    "The RFL, the UK's governing body, said it was too early to come to a conclusion as they continue their investigation of the incident."

    Catalans Dragons are denying it happened (difficult, given there is video evidence of it happening), but they claim the flag was removed because it covered an advertising hoarding.. which is likely true given that the security guard appears to be pointing at the advertising..

    Quote Originally Posted by Ian_Cook View Post
    "The Dragons have responded by insisting that fans were welcome to display flags but said one was asked to remove theirs because it was covering an advertising board."

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/league...-folau-protest
    No a source for the "denying it happened"


    The dragons deny the flags were confiscated, but they didn't deny what the picture indicated


    I see your slight of hand or your poetic license, or your misread, or your bias, or your cognitive dissonance.
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    Default Re: Folauís online comments have taken a turn for the worse.

    Quote Originally Posted by Not Kurt Weaver View Post
    No a source for the "denying it happened"


    The dragons deny the flags were confiscated, but they didn't deny what the picture indicated


    I see your slight of hand or your poetic license, or your misread, or your bias, or your cognitive dissonance.
    Rubbish, it actually in the headline and the first line of text

    HEADLINE:
    Catalans Dragons deny fans had rainbow flags confiscated for Israel Folau protest

    FIRST LINE OF TEXT:
    Catalans Dragons have denied allegations that fans had rainbow flags confiscated for protesting against Israel Folau on his Super League debut last weekend.


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    Default Re: Folauís online comments have taken a turn for the worse.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ian_Cook View Post
    Definitely an over-reaction by some, but I'd hardly call them the "militant left".
    its not an over-reaction. It is a deliberate twisting of the facts to suit their own agenda & gain notoriety. And to garner support from the gullible.

    Arthur: [grabs Dennis] Shut up! Will you shut up?!
    Dennis: Ah, now we see the violence inherent in the system!
    Arthur: [shakes Dennis] Shut up!
    Dennis: Oh! Come and see the violence inherent in the system! Help, help, I'm being repressed!
    Arthur: Bloody Peasant!
    Dennis: Ooh, what a giveaway! Did you hear that? Did you hear that, eh? That's what I'm on about! Did you see him repressing me? You saw it, didn't you?
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    Default Re: Folauís online comments have taken a turn for the worse.

    Quote Originally Posted by Not Kurt Weaver View Post
    It is leftist idelogy.
    No, its common human decency

    Quote Originally Posted by Not Kurt Weaver View Post
    I am suggesting that verbal abuse of Chiekha and pride day at wigan are equally result of free speech. Each was made by free will. One freely chose to yell at Chiekha. One freely made pride day at wigan. Neither were result of IF inciting them to do it. Humans can think for themselves, some not very well, but they are human. All three of these events, IF post, Chiekha, and pride day are all free speech and out of free will.

    I suggest you do not use the same techniques that you find offensive to bolster your position. Your hatred has clouded your judgment.

    Name calling is easy. Using the word bigot is difficult, but the left has found it easy. I think you could describe yourself as a Isreal Folau bigot. It is just not a good word to use when making a point.
    If I am going to be criticised for being vocal and uncompromising in support of the rights of members of the LGBT community to not be harassed, vilified and discriminated against, then I will wear that criticism as a badge of honour.

    I have said before and I will say again, if people think that Folau's homophobic rants are protected by some Free Speech mandate that grants anyone the right to say what they want, when they want, wherever they want, without consequences, then they... are... wrong! The ONLY right anyone has in regards to Free Speech that the GOVERNMENTS cannot make laws against it.

    Free Speech is not absolute, and certain types of speech, when exercised, have consequences.


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    Correcting this anti homosexual thinking will not happen in our lifetime, but eventually thru free speech it will. Sorry dude, you and I will never see it.
    All the more important then, that we are uncompromising in showing the way by making homophobes pariahs in our communities. That way, at least our children, or grandchildren will be able to live in a world free of that particular blight on the community.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dickie E View Post
    its not an over-reaction. It is a deliberate twisting of the facts to suit their own agenda & gain notoriety. And to garner support from the gullible.

    Arthur: [grabs Dennis] Shut up! Will you shut up?!
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    Arthur: Bloody Peasant!
    Dennis: Ooh, what a giveaway! Did you hear that? Did you hear that, eh? That's what I'm on about! Did you see him repressing me? You saw it, didn't you?
    Quoting a work of fiction to support your claim? Yeah, that's about par for the course.
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    Default Re: Folauís online comments have taken a turn for the worse.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ian_Cook View Post
    Quoting a work of fiction to support your claim? Yeah, that's about par for the course.
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    Default Re: Folauís online comments have taken a turn for the worse.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickie E View Post
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    Oooh, ouch!
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    Default Re: Folauís online comments have taken a turn for the worse.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ian_Cook View Post

    All the more important then, that we are uncompromising in showing the way by making homophobes pariahs in our communities. That way, at least our children, or grandchildren will be able to live in a world free of that particular blight on the community.
    I appreciate your optimism. IMO and only my opinion, this will not be solved by our generation or theirs. I'd like to be wrong. IMO and only my opinion, free speech is how it will be solved.

    Accurate speech will also be helpful, but I don't see that happening either.

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