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    Default Re: Folauís online comments have taken a turn for the worse.

    WE can agree to disagree on that. However we definitely should start a forum poll, I bet he doesn’t last the year at Catalan Dragons, before creating some sort of scandal with his inane drivel.
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    Default Re: Folauís online comments have taken a turn for the worse.

    Quote Originally Posted by crossref View Post
    Needling an opponent on basis of religion is likely to be RC offence
    Roman Catholic??!!
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    Default Re: Folauís online comments have taken a turn for the worse.

    Quote Originally Posted by didds View Post
    an sometimes it IS hate speech.
    This from a great American

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4XT-l-_3y0

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    Default Re: Folauís online comments have taken a turn for the worse.

    Quote Originally Posted by L'irlandais View Post
    Also the opposition will not miss an opportunity to needle him with it now.
    The opposition better be careful not to say anything that could be hate speech.

    Quote Originally Posted by didds View Post
    witness Wigan's pride day coinciding with thei match against Catalan...

    didds
    Does that meet the definition of hate speech?, Is wigan providing a venue for possible hate speech against the lone Tongan?

    Quote Originally Posted by crossref View Post
    Needling an opponent on basis of religion is likely to be RC offence
    What law cover hate speech? reference please?

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    Default Re: Folauís online comments have taken a turn for the worse.

    Quote Originally Posted by L'irlandais View Post

    Source Given he was raised a Mormon, he clearly cannot distinguish religious truth from sect-like untruths.
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    So am I to understand that mormons cannot distinguish truth from sect-like cults? Or did you post this as an example of hate speech/

    Quote Originally Posted by L'irlandais View Post

    Meanwhile his cousin has been spouting crap too.
    20 year old Josiah Folau reportedly called the [Sydney Catholic] school ‘a synagogue of Satan’ and labelled the Catholic mass ‘a paganistic ritual’
    From Here.
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    Why is this relevant? Did you choose this to show us that IF comes from a long line of fools? or That as a Mormon, his cousin, was unable to distinguish that a Catholic mass is not as pure as his sect-like Mormon traditions?


    You are free to address this IF situation however you want, but I got to wonder if you are also using hate speech technic. Maybe hate speech doesn't apply to the oppressed group(s) when these groups use it.

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    Default Re: Folauís online comments have taken a turn for the worse.

    What’s the difference between the Bible and the Book of Mormon?

    There is absolutely zero archeological evidence for any city or battle named in the Book of Mormon. Much to the chagrin of Mormon archeologists. Practically all places and events in the Bible, have devoted archeological sites today. While the catchphrase”Absence of evidence, is not evidence of absence.” could apply. One would have thought not so much as a single arrowhead, was quite telling.
    But the more NWAF and its collaborators excavated and analyzed sites in the region, the more they confirmed that Mesoamerican civilization sprang up from entirely New World origins.

    So while non-believers can call both works of fiction, at least the Bible is supported by a wealth of archeological evidence.
    Last edited by L'irlandais; 02-02-20 at 21:02.
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    Default Re: Folauís online comments have taken a turn for the worse.

    Quote Originally Posted by Not Kurt Weaver View Post

    What law cover hate speech? reference please?
    It's 9.12 - but Regulation 17 expands on verbal abuse

    9.12 A player must not verbally abuse anyone. Verbal abuse includes, but is not limited to, abuse based on: religion, colour, national or ethnic origin, sexual orientation.

    Low-end: 6 weeks

    Mid-range: 12 weeks

    Top-end: 18+ weeks

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    Quote Originally Posted by L'irlandais View Post
    Whatís the difference between the Bible and the Book of Mormon?

    There is absolutely zero archeological evidence for any city or battle named in the Book of Mormon. Much to the chagrin of Mormon archeologists. Practically all places and events in the Bible, have devoted archeological sites today. While the catchphraseĒAbsence of evidence, is not evidence of absence.Ē could apply. One would have thought not so much as a single arrowhead, was quite telling.
    But the more NWAF and its collaborators excavated and analyzed sites in the region, the more they confirmed that Mesoamerican civilization sprang up from entirely New World origins.

    So while non-believers can call both works of fiction, at least the Bible is supported by a wealth of archeological evidence.
    So Mormons are open season for hate speech, even as outlined in Crossref's post from Reg 17

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    Default Re: Folauís online comments have taken a turn for the worse.

    Seems to be some hatred of a certain player or belief system going on in this thread. I think the new sect's that new age or "born-again's" often seem to create are less about god than their own ego, but that doesn't mean I go around bad-mouthing them because its not my belief set.

    Plenty of people, regardless of religious belief, are willing to physically, emotionally or mentally harm others for their own gain. Does IF's comments make him a hypocrite? Probably. But if he is a hypocrite/bigot, he is in good company with those who also choose to act as judge and jury on his behaviour based on their belief set.

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    Arrow Re: Folauís online comments have taken a turn for the worse.

    On the contrary, it is important for us to speak out against bigotry, otherwise this happens:
    The Super League is investigating after two spectators say they were told to remove rainbow flags during Israel Folau's debut at Catalans Dragons.

    Folau was sacked by Rugby Australia for posting homophobic comments on social media but joined Catalans last month.

    The two women say they were told to remove the flags, a symbol of LGBT pride, "on health and safety grounds".
    The notion that he is entitled to say what he wants, gives bigotry a form of legitimacy. So much so, that some bigoted little man felt entitled to squash the freedom of speech of a tiny minority.

    As Brel put it, “On n'ťtait pas du mÍme bord. On n'ťtait pas du mÍme chemin”
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