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    Default Re: Offside oddity

    Quote Originally Posted by OB.. View Post
    When Blue 7 fumbles backwards, that sets the offside line. The ball is now on the safe side of that line, so any Blue player who gets to it must have got past the offside line and is therefore onside.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckieB View Post
    the simplest explanations are often the best!
    Only if they are accurate.

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    Default Re: Offside oddity

    Quote Originally Posted by crossref View Post
    So there are three possibilities

    To get onside Blue 9 has to get behind
    1 the place the ball was played
    2 blue 7 (the player who played it)
    3 the ball

    Adding to context: after fumbling the ball Blue 7, of course, continues as best he can to move toward the ball.

    Anyone want to try a Law Reference to support one of those ?
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    Default Re: Offside oddity

    Quote Originally Posted by Decorily View Post
    No....you imply that the offside line is 'set' at the place where the ball was played. The offside, as such, in this scenario is dependant on where the last player to play the ball is.
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    Technically Blue 9 is "ahead" of Blue 7, and so offside. If Blue 7 turns round and runs away from the ball, he can put Blue 9 onside. Similarly if Blue 9 overtakes him to get to the ball, Blue 9 puts himself onside.

    (I was wrong earlier to say Blue 9 was initially onside.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by OB.. View Post
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    Technically Blue 9 is "ahead" of Blue 7, and so offside. If Blue 7 turns round and runs away from the ball, he can put Blue 9 onside. Similarly if Blue 9 overtakes him to get to the ball, Blue 9 puts himself onside.

    (I was wrong earlier to say Blue 9 was initially onside.)
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    Oops....Was responding to OBs initial post but then discovered he had substantially edited it so thought I had deleted my above !!

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    Default Re: Offside oddity

    Quote Originally Posted by Decorily View Post
    He can't! !!

    EDIT.... Well he can be put onside but in simplistic terms which is what I think you mean ....he can't.

    but then blue 7 gets to the ball first and so the issue becomes redundant.


    I can see where the moot discussion comes form but if anybody blew 9 for being some sort of technically offside under the above circumstances do they honestly think the 30 players on the pitch plus whoever is watching would ever understand why? let alone agree! (the other side's skipper would be delighted to be handed a PK undoubtedly!)


    A scenario the law makers never envisaged I am sure


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    Default Re: Offside oddity

    Quote Originally Posted by didds View Post
    A scenario the law makers never envisaged I am sure
    And that is before somebody suggests penalising blue 9 for being in an offside position and running towards the ball

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    Default Re: Offside oddity

    Quote Originally Posted by mcroker View Post
    And that is before somebody suggests penalising blue 9 for being in an offside position and running towards the ball
    good point. Offside under 10 metre law and both simultaneously retiring and running towards the ball
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    Default Re: Offside oddity

    So perhaps there are four possible

    To get onside Blue 9 has to get behind
    1 the place the ball was played
    2 blue 7 (the player who played it)
    3 the ball
    4 surely no one would really penalise Blue 9 ?

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