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    Interesting moment in the first half of Leicester v Exeter . 41m30s on the clock and Luke Pearce stops the game for an injury.
    Then restarts with a scrum

    Technically I think it's probably wrong, should be the end of the half. Bit in principle I like it - but it would be awkward if that decided a game though .

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    I did the opposite at a recent game, blew for time after I'd stopped play for an injury. I wasn't sure if this was right or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crossref View Post
    Interesting moment in the first half of Leicester v Exeter . 41m30s on the clock and Luke Pearce stops the game for an injury.
    Then restarts with a scrum

    Technically I think it's probably wrong, should be the end of the half. Bit in principle I like it - but it would be awkward if that decided a game though .
    This has been discussed before. Angus Gardiner did this in a Super Rugby game a few years ago and he said that he wasn't going to end the half on an injury.

    I believe I was in a minority of one - on this forum at least - when I said the ref should restart the game.

    Can we be a minority of two?
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    Quote Originally Posted by damo View Post
    This has been discussed before. Angus Gardiner did this in a Super Rugby game a few years ago and he said that he wasn't going to end the half on an injury.

    I believe I was in a minority of one - on this forum at least - when I said the ref should restart the game.

    Can we be a minority of two?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SimonSmith View Post
    Wrong in law.
    Right in practice.
    My heart agrees with this
    My head says enforce the Law as written. Its WR job to change a bad Law, not the refs

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    Would you end the game on an injury in the second half? Score 5-3 for example.
    When I have addressed matters of law with our fully professional colleagues which aren’t covered by the law book the general opinion is that it should be a ‘refereeing decision’. The idea being that the referee can decide on what could be deemed ‘fair’. Fairness being more important than law? If the half time score was 30-0 would it make a difference? Where was the injury and the likelihood of a score? Half way line or five meters from line? Etc, etc. I can see the strength behind this argument but at the same time as someone that likes consistency I can see weaknesses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SimonSmith View Post
    Wrong in law.
    Right in practice.
    Why wrong in Law?

    The Law says that the game/half can only be ended when the ball is made dead. If you blow to stop for an injury then the ball is not dead - IMO
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    If it's not dead then what is it? Schroedingers Ball?

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    Quote Originally Posted by beckett50 View Post
    Why wrong in Law?

    The Law says that the game/half can only be ended when the ball is made dead. If you blow to stop for an injury then the ball is not dead - IMO
    Because the Law Book says so.

    • A half ends when the ball becomes dead after time has expired unless:
      • A scrum, lineout or restart kick following a try or touchdown, awarded before time expired, has not been completed and the ball has not returned to open play. This includes when the scrum, lineout or restart kick is taken incorrectly.
      • The referee awards a free-kick or penalty.
      • A penalty is kicked directly to touch without the ball first being tapped and without the ball touching another player.
      • A try has been scored, in which case the referee allows time for the conversion to be taken.
    • Dead: The ball is dead when the referee blows the whistle to stop play or following an unsuccessful conversion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crossref View Post
    Interesting moment in the first half of Leicester v Exeter . 41m30s on the clock and Luke Pearce stops the game for an injury.
    Then restarts with a scrum

    Technically I think it's probably wrong, should be the end of the half. Bit in principle I like it - but it would be awkward if that decided a game though .
    Perhaps, maybe, possibly the game clock on the tele was not the same as that on the referees watch! It wouldn't be the first time the TV time keeper was a bit slow to stop the clock on all the stoppages!
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