Page 1 of 4 1234 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 31

Thread: Open play, non-maul

      
  1. #1

    Referees in Holland


    Soc/Assoc
    NRB
    Grade
    IRB level 2
    Join Date
    15 Oct 11
    Posts
    941
    Thanks (Received)
    3
    Likes (Received)
    51

    Default Open play, non-maul

    So in my game Saturday:

    Open play, Red pass to a big second row in the middle of the pitch, and he's immediately joined by 3 teammates in a would-be maul formation. Ball at the front in the hands of the second row.

    Blue decide to not make any contact at all, Red trundle on 10m or so.

    Blue 10 then comes round the back and tackles the hindmost player.

    Your call?

  2. #2
    Coach/Referee

    Soc/Assoc
    None
    Grade
    Select Grade
    Join Date
    03 May 13
    Posts
    890
    Thanks (Received)
    20
    Likes (Received)
    173

    Default Re: Open play, non-maul

    Quote Originally Posted by irishref View Post
    So in my game Saturday:

    Open play, Red pass to a big second row in the middle of the pitch, and he's immediately joined by 3 teammates in a would-be maul formation. Ball at the front in the hands of the second row.

    Blue decide to not make any contact at all, Red trundle on 10m or so.

    Blue 10 then comes round the back and tackles the hindmost player.

    Your call?
    So Blue 10 ' tackles' a player without the ball...is that correct?

  3. #3

    Referees in England


    Soc/Assoc
    --
    Grade
    Grassroots
    Join Date
    14 Sep 09
    Posts
    17,838
    Thanks (Received)
    139
    Likes (Received)
    1777

    Default Re: Open play, non-maul

    Is this a rarely seen, illegal, flying wedge ?

  4. #4
    Coach/Referee

    Soc/Assoc
    None
    Grade
    Select Grade
    Join Date
    03 May 13
    Posts
    890
    Thanks (Received)
    20
    Likes (Received)
    173

    Default Re: Open play, non-maul

    Quote Originally Posted by crossref View Post
    Is this a rarely seen, illegal, flying wedge ?
    No..I don't believe it is.

  5. #5
    Rugby Club Member Rich_NL's Avatar

    Soc/Assoc
    Rugby Nederland
    Grade
    WR level 2
    Join Date
    13 Apr 15
    Posts
    1,207
    Thanks (Received)
    18
    Likes (Received)
    324

    Default Re: Open play, non-maul

    It sounds like a flying wedge, penalty to blue.

    If red players are not bound, tackling off the ball by blue, penalty to red (managing for materiality and flashpoints etc)

  6. #6

    Resident Club Coach
    didds's Avatar

    Soc/Assoc
    N/A
    Grade
    Club Coach
    Join Date
    27 Jan 04
    Posts
    9,727
    Thanks (Received)
    64
    Likes (Received)
    937

    Default Re: Open play, non-maul

    cue 300 post debate about what is or is not a flying wedge and what it was historically and where on the pitch it happens etc etc etc (CF the previous 200 similar threads).

    didds

  7. #7

    Referees in England


    Soc/Assoc
    --
    Grade
    Grassroots
    Join Date
    14 Sep 09
    Posts
    17,838
    Thanks (Received)
    139
    Likes (Received)
    1777

    Default Re: Open play, non-maul

    If it's not a FW then I guess the only legal action open to blue is to tackle the ball carrier (ooomph)

  8. #8

    Resident Club Coach
    didds's Avatar

    Soc/Assoc
    N/A
    Grade
    Club Coach
    Join Date
    27 Jan 04
    Posts
    9,727
    Thanks (Received)
    64
    Likes (Received)
    937

    Default Re: Open play, non-maul

    I suppose there is always the option to blow the whistle, say it just looks dangerous and award red the scrum (going forwards/in possession eat the time etc). IF you didnt want to go down the FW/dangerous play PK route.

    Safety - Enjoyment - Law.

  9. #9

    Resident Club Coach
    didds's Avatar

    Soc/Assoc
    N/A
    Grade
    Club Coach
    Join Date
    27 Jan 04
    Posts
    9,727
    Thanks (Received)
    64
    Likes (Received)
    937

    Default Re: Open play, non-maul

    @Irishref... purely out of interest is there any way to raise a query in your society to see if anybody else has come across this tactic from Red before? ie is it a standard ploy they use constantly.

    didds

  10. #10

    Referees in Holland


    Soc/Assoc
    NRB
    Grade
    IRB level 2
    Join Date
    15 Oct 11
    Posts
    941
    Thanks (Received)
    3
    Likes (Received)
    51

    Default Re: Open play, non-maul

    Quote Originally Posted by didds View Post
    @Irishref... purely out of interest is there any way to raise a query in your society to see if anybody else has come across this tactic from Red before? ie is it a standard ploy they use constantly.

    didds
    We have a society workshop on Dec 15th, I'll certainly throw it in the group.

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •