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    Default Referees using player's names

    I have noticed in the last couple of seasons that some top flight referees are using the player's Christian names a lot more. Wayne Barnes and Matt Carney seem to to do it the most. Yesterday's match at Twickenham between Leicester and Quins, MC was doing it all the time.

    Personally I don't think it is a bad thing, RL referees have been doing for years. At my level (9, 10 and 11) I don't do it mainly because I don't know the players names.

    What is the general consensus, are they becoming too familiar by using first names (familiarity breeds contempt, as the saying goes in the Army), or is it a good thing?

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    If you can call every single player by name, go for it.
    Else numbers is better

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    I use the captains names usually and others who I have got to know over the years.
    Don't see any thing wrong with it to be honest.
    Seems sensible to use a players name when I have known the player for 20 years rather than, 6 green here please !
    Used to get to know a lot more when we had match cards to sign.
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    I'm hopeless with names. So, I stick to Captain and numbers. I'm generally not in favour of using names for some and not others.

    Evn with coaches. I'd rather address bot hteams coache as "coach" than address one as "Dave" and the other as "coach". It gives the wrong impression for me. Each to their own though.

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    I recall reffing an ex gf and she was also captain. The first time she called me by name, I said "it's sir until the game is over" 😉

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    I only address Captains by first name.

    If it's "Dave, your players need to try harder to stay on their feet" I'm making use of downtime to have a chat and stop a trend emerging.


    "Blue captain, your players are failing to stay on their feet and this is an issue you're forcing me to address" is the formal warning prior to cards coming out.
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    What about the other way round.. when players in the bar after the game call you Sir .. do you invite them to use you name or just go with it..

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    I use names in the rare instances I can... seems to improve communication without (for me) giving a bias.

    In the pre-match briefing, I always introduce myself to captain by my name when I shake their hands, but then expect to be called Sir throughout the match. In the bar if a player calls me sir, I generally invite them to use my name.

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    Default Re: Referees using player's names

    Quote Originally Posted by GingerSeaMonster View Post
    I have noticed in the last couple of seasons that some top flight referees are using the player's Christian names a lot more. Wayne Barnes and Matt Carney seem to to do it the most. Yesterday's match at Twickenham between Leicester and Quins, MC was doing it all the time.

    Personally I don't think it is a bad thing, RL referees have been doing for years. At my level (9, 10 and 11) I don't do it mainly because I don't know the players names.

    What is the general consensus, are they becoming too familiar by using first names (familiarity breeds contempt, as the saying goes in the Army), or is it a good thing?
    I don't like it , except for captains at down time. I also have no problem with the captain using my name at downtime. Its a bit Downton Abbey otherwise if I'm using their name and they are calling me "Sir"

    I get it where pro refs have been working with players for years, but it still sounds sloppy to me. Even worse is in rugby league and Aussie rules when refs/umpires use player nicknames.

    I had a game a few years ago when ref pulled out late and I was asked to do my own club (red jerseys with white trim and shorts). What made it worse was that the other club who normally wear red, white and blue hoops with white shorts decided to wear plain red jerseys (it was a "heritage" thing or something that they neglected to inform anyone of). Luckily my club's jerseys had white linings so we could turn inside out - but that meant no numbers.

    I had a word to the other club and asked if they minded me using player names which they didnt and we had a good game of rugby, but it did feel awkward calling "hands out Davo", "Step back Smithy" etc.

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    Default Re: Referees using player's names

    my 2p... i suspect down at the areas where you guys ref mostly (some exceptions here :-) ) i suspect name calling COULD end up implying some sort of matey bias compared to otherwise using numbers (particularly if one team IS wel known to the ref and the others total strangers).

    Id also suggest that if the ref does call players by names they shoud be able to reciprocate.

    didds

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