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    Question Under 10's - Rucking

    Hi

    I'e recently joined the coaching staff of our local team. It appears a couple of weeks ago their confidence took a dent around the ruck area after a team turned up with a different view of the ruck rules. The area's I was hoping for some assistance / clarity on were as follows:

    1. Numbers - we read as "no more than 2 players from either team (including the ball carrier and tackler)" as that, max 2 from each side - they had interpreted that the ball carrier is not included in the numbers, this is clearly wrong is it not?
    2. Open Play - a ruck is created when one or two players from each team are on their feet in physical contact close around the ball which is on the ground, "open play has ended" - the latter bit here, if the ruck moves away from the ball (one player pushes the opposite player away from the ball, ball carrier, tackler, etc), are we back at open play and so next player could simply arrive via the gate and pick the ball and play away, etc? Or are stil in "open play has ended" and so technically in a ruck situation?
    3. Tackle made -
      1. Rip the ball from carrier - this can be done if there is no ruck (neither standing player in contact with each other), they must pass; can they be tackled by an opposing player while they have the ball in their hand prior to passing?
      2. Pick up ball and pass away - same question as above; can they be tackled while they have the ball in their hand?
      3. "Won" - if a player drives an opposite player away from the ball on the floor, away being past the ball and ball carrier and tackler, lets say a foot past the back foot, is this "won"? The other team claimed that its not "won", there was no longer a ruck just a ball on the floor with a ball carrier and/or tackler....


    In essense there are 2 significant points to the above; can the "scrum halve" looking to play the ball away from a ruck or tackled player with ball on floor situation, be tackled by an opposing player or are they protected like at a scrum? Second question being what happens if a player drives an opponent away from a ruck position leaving an exposed ball on the floor, is this "won"?

    Would appreciate any thoughts or help on the above please?

    Many thanks

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    Default Re: Under 10's - Rucking

    At U10 the ruck is 1v1 contesting (2v2 if you include the ball carrier and tackler). You would be looking to protect the 9 and encourage the ball to be passed away at this age, but if the ball ends up that far out it’s clear of the ruck then we’ll into open play and crack on.

    For the tackle, there are offside lines at the tackle in U10 so every one else not involved should be back foot

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    1. Shame that the Regs are drafted in a way that leaves room for interpretation, but looking also at the overall progression graphic (https://www.englandrugby.com//dxdam/...yer%202019.pdf) answers your first question: "Ruck & Maul: 1 support player per team", so if tackler & BC get up quickly, plus 1 support each, that's your 2v2. That is likely to be a rare occurrence so you're most likely looking at 1v1 over the ball, BC, & tackler.

    2. Yes, you're back on open play: if the ruck pushes over the ball such that the ball is out in the fresh air again, then the ruck is over and anyone who is coming from an onside position (NB gate is now irrelevant as the ruck is over) can pick up the ball.

    3.1. & 3.2. There is no explicit protection for this first arriving player from being tackled after they pick up the ball before the ruck forms and as they try to get the pass away. However you might want to discuss and take a view on this dependent on the skill etc of the teams. In a development game it wouldn't be out of the question to say they're protected.

    3.3. This is the same as your question 2: the team did win the ruck but by pushing over and past they have put the ball back into open play so it's fair game for anyone who is coming from an onside position. Coaching point is to protect the ball by staying over it, and get the 9 to work fast.

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    Default Re: Under 10's - Rucking

    On 2 - the answers above are right, but IMHO the kids get a better game is you take a generous view of what constitutes still in... and manage it actively ...

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