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    Default Re: Place of Conversion kick

    I think I try to come across as reasonable when reffing, I don't think you are going to get an objection from the players and captain behind the sticks so allowing them to take it out wider is a chance to.not.come across too authoritarian.

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    what I did was : I said yes. For the reasons above.

    But it set me thinking about it. The correct answer, really, must be 'No'
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    Quote Originally Posted by crossref View Post
    what I did was : I said yes. For the reasons above.

    But it set me thinking about it. The correct answer, really, must be 'No'
    I'd be OK with it. Like at the kick off and centre of halfway line is a mess. Move away from it but not towards the direction you will kick.
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    Isn’t the advantage for a KO to move away from the direction you will kick? More hang time

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    We move scrums away from muddy patches for safety grounds. Can't really think of a safety issue for moving a kick. I'd allow forward or back, but not side to side. What if the try was right in the corner, would you allow the kick to be take further in-field, if not then there's a consistency issue there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crossref View Post
    I don't think that really gives an advantage to one team though.
    It can have an effect on the size of the blindside/splitting the defence, which depending on the team might give an advantage. But crucially - it's far more important that the scrum proceeds safely.

    In the case of the conversion, it's not really about safety (unless you think the kicker's bound to go over on his ankle), but about giving the player the choice of where to kick because the prescribed line doesn't suit their preferences/abilities. In that sense, I can see why some refs would deny the option. Personally, I agree with OB.. - the aim is not to gain an unfair advantage, but to compensate one disadvantage with another.

    As long as the option is available to both teams, I think it's equitable and allows players to play their best game.

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    Isn’t the advantage for a KO to move away from the direction you will kick? More hang time
    I've never thought of that ... fair point.

    So if centre was a mess, would you allow the kick off to be moved a metre or 2? If so, which direction?
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    Yes. Because if it's a muddy mess, the ball won't bounce. Which is kinda important for a drop kick.
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    I think moving any kick by 1 metre makes no practical difference at all

    But firm ground v muddy ground makes a significant difference, both for drop kicks and place kicks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dickie E View Post
    I've never thought of that ... fair point.

    So if centre was a mess, would you allow the kick off to be moved a metre or 2? If so, which direction?
    Yes, absolutely - I don’t stipulate in which direction, and at the level I ref, I don’t particularly need to.

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