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    Default Re: Quick tap penalty

    Yeah, all good. Play On for me. No offside at this point as we're in open play.

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    Default Re: Quick tap penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by crossref View Post
    What worries me here is whether the defender is interfering with play over those first ten metres
    .. is he limiting the ball carriers ability to pass
    .. is he shepherding the ball carrier, limiting the angle of his run

    If no to both then play on
    So he's following. Doesn't seem to be preventing anything or shepherding. If he's close enough to make the tackle at 10m then he's most likely right behind so BC is free to do what he wishes.

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    What if the ball carrier realised what was happening and passed the ball back into the following opposition player?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil E View Post
    What if the ball carrier realised what was happening and passed the ball back into the following opposition player?

    Then that would be incredibly stupid of him. He's played the ball as he wished. He's chosen to pass to an opposition player. Same as a 9 who passes to a player at the a ruck who's stood (at the wrong side), still as he's realised he'll be interfering with play if he moves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arabcheif View Post
    Then that would be incredibly stupid of him. He's played the ball as he wished. He's chosen to pass to an opposition player. Same as a 9 who passes to a player at the a ruck who's stood (at the wrong side), still as he's realised he'll be interfering with play if he moves.
    He's played the ball as he wished
    That is a phrase that is only applied when you're playing advantage. Not sure what it has to do with this scenario.


    So you don't think the player who hasn't retreated 10m and is offside is interfering with play if he gets in the way of or intercepts the ball?

    Do you not think the player on the wrong side of a ruck who gets the ball passed into him by the SH is interfering with play while in an offside position?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil E View Post
    That is a phrase that is only applied when you're playing advantage. Not sure what it has to do with this scenario.


    So you don't think the player who hasn't retreated 10m and is offside is interfering with play if he gets in the way of or intercepts the ball?

    If he gets thrown the ball - No. If he moves towards the ball with intent to play the ball - Yes.

    Do you not think the player on the wrong side of a ruck who gets the ball passed into him by the SH is interfering with play while in an offside position?
    If he's standing still waiting for the 9 to make his move and not the path of any potential pass - No

    This has been reffed like this in a couple of games I've played in at youth level (U-18) and at Adult level. There's even been a few in Int matches. There was one that NO was reffing Scotland (can't remember who it was against, might've been Italy). Blue made the tackle, white secured the ball. There was an option left and right. So blue stood still hands in the air, 9 passed to him (blue) hit his chest, NO said Play on. Explained that he wasn't interfering and that the 9 chose to throw the ball at him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arabcheif View Post
    If he's standing still waiting for the 9 to make his move and not the path of any potential pass - No

    This has been reffed like this in a couple of games I've played in at youth level (U-18) and at Adult level. There's even been a few in Int matches. There was one that NO was reffing Scotland (can't remember who it was against, might've been Italy). Blue made the tackle, white secured the ball. There was an option left and right. So blue stood still hands in the air, 9 passed to him (blue) hit his chest, NO said Play on. Explained that he wasn't interfering and that the 9 chose to throw the ball at him.
    I have also seen it penalisd at international level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil E View Post
    I have also seen it penalisd at international level.

    Only time I've ever seen it penalised is if the player has been moving back to an onside position. But we're off topic. The question was Quick tap taken, player tackled after 10m by a retreating player. That's fine. Play on.

    Seriously, I sometimes think that some posters on here post just to be difficult. It's shame really as there's some really good advice mixed in with all the arguing and bickering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil E View Post
    What if the ball carrier realised what was happening and passed the ball back into the following opposition player?
    If the ball carrier hadn't travelled the 10m and the pursuing player prevented him from passing to a team mate then I would have given a pen.

    If the ball carrier had travelled 10m then I would play on.

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    Default Re: Quick tap penalty

    Provided that the opposition player is retreating in a straight line to their own goal-line, and not for example changing lanes to block the pass, then I think they are doing exactly that they are required by law - and I am not going to penalise them for it. Play on.


    When a penalty or free-kick is awarded, the opposing team must immediately retreat 10 metres towards their own goal line or until they have reached their goal line if that is closer.

    Even if the penalty or free-kick is taken quickly and the kicker’s team is playing the ball, opposing players must keep retreating the necessary distance. They may not take part in the game until they have done so.


    If it is taken so quickly that opponents have no opportunity to retreat, they will not be sanctioned for this. However, they may not take part in the game until they have retreated 10 metres from the mark or until a team-mate who was 10 metres from the mark has moved in front of them.

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