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    Default Sco v Eng - Scrum back?

    Can't see this one has been asked about?

    But did I see the ref have a bit of a brain fart? Farrell misses pen to left of posts, Hogg takes 22 and kicks it into Eng in-goal, Ford makes it dead (straight away) and ref give an Eng 22
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    Default Re: Sco v Eng - Scrum back?

    Yes I noticed that.
    Should have been a scrum back surely?
    Unless the ref thought it wasn't "without delay"?

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    17. If a 22-metre drop-out reaches the opponents’ in-goal without touching any player and
    an opponent grounds the ball without delay or it goes into touch-in-goal or on or over
    the dead-ball line, the non-kicking team has the option of having the kick retaken or a
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    I am not sure that Ford was completely certain what the Law was either

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    international player not knowing laws #HaskellvIta
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    Default Re: Sco v Eng - Scrum back?

    My thoughts were same. The 'without delay' qualifier is interesting. I denied the scrum option last season to a player who decided to wait and draw the oppo into approaching him. Then he fake touched down before actually touching down. Perfectly legal, if not slightly incendiary to his oppos. I told him it wasn't immediate so he gets only the 22 DO option. He was convinced I was wrong.

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    There was also a "not 5" at the lineout and the scrum wasn't 15m in from the Touch Line
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    Default Re: Sco v Eng - Scrum back?

    Quote Originally Posted by beckett50 View Post
    There was also a "not 5" at the lineout and the scrum wasn't 15m in from the Touch Line
    It was interesting that it wasn't a FK though ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by crossref View Post
    It was interesting that it wasn't a FK though ..
    Why??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Decorily View Post
    Why??
    Well, we have discussed a few times now whether it's a FK or a scrum.

    The answr, of course , is that opponent catching ball inside 5m is a FK , but team mate catching ball inside 5m is a scrum/lineout option

    (18.25 and 18.23.b respectively)

    This was a teamate , right ? So the scrum was correct (I assume he actually offered an option and scrum chosen)
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    Quote Originally Posted by crossref View Post
    Well, we have discussed a few times now whether it's a FK or a scrum.

    The answr, of course , is that opponent catching ball inside 5m is a FK , but team mate catching ball inside 5m is a scrum/lineout option

    (18.25 and 18.23.b respectively)

    This was a teamate , right ? So the scrum was correct (I assume he actually offered an option and scrum chosen)
    I'm aware what law says it should be....
    But my question was why you thought it was interesting that it wasn’t a FK!

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