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    Default 22 Drop Out - Not taken properly

    From my game on Saturday, 22 Drop Out awarded to red, red captain picks up the ball inside the 22, sort of taps it then flings it with no great urgency to a team mate 5m away (at this point I'm thinking this is where they throw it back and forth a bit before deciding where to drop out from) except team mate then runs it out of the 22. So peep from me, what's the correct next step?

    FWIW I just called '22 *drop kick* lads, go again' which they did, Green captain queried it a bit later asking if it should be a scrum (which got me thinking of the incorrect penalty thread and probably influenced my thought process). I checked under the restart section of the laws after the game and saw nothing - but have a nagging feeling I was wrong, is a specific answer buried somewhere?

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    Default Re: 22 Drop Out - Not taken properly

    Think the relevant law is 12.12c - A 22 metre drop-out must cross the 22-metre line. sanction: The non-kicking team has the option of the kick being retaken or a scrum.

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    Default Re: 22 Drop Out - Not taken properly

    Quote Originally Posted by Jz558 View Post
    Think the relevant law is 12.12c - A 22 metre drop-out must cross the 22-metre line. sanction: The non-kicking team has the option of the kick being retaken or a scrum.
    I saw that, but we didn't get as far as taking a drop out, let alone crossing the line!

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    Default Re: 22 Drop Out - Not taken properly

    i think you were right. take a dropout

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    Default Re: 22 Drop Out - Not taken properly

    I had exactly the same yesterday. No drop kick, so I whistled it back again to be taken.

    It seems odd that if you can't even do the right thing badly you get another go, but if you can do the right thing badly it's turned over for a scrum.

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    Default Re: 22 Drop Out - Not taken properly

    Quote Originally Posted by Rich_NL View Post

    It seems odd that if you can't even do the right thing badly you get another go, but if you can do the right thing badly it's turned over for a scrum.
    Yeah, if I have a fresh air swing playing golf I always claim it was a warm up swing
    I, for one, like Roman numerals

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    Default Re: 22 Drop Out - Not taken properly

    Argh, stupid law book, I hate this inconsistent re-organisation, the correct answer is Scrum green, the answer being buried under 19.1 (Scrum);

    An incorrect kick-off or restart kick (scrum option). At the middle point of the half-way line or 22-metre line if the restart kick was a 22 drop-out. The non-kicking team.
    Basically you need to know that there is a sanction, and what the sanction is, and look there first!

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    Default Re: 22 Drop Out - Not taken properly

    Quote Originally Posted by Flish View Post
    Argh, stupid law book, I hate this inconsistent re-organisation, the correct answer is Scrum green, the answer being buried under 19.1 (Scrum);

    An incorrect kick-off or restart kick (scrum option). At the middle point of the half-way line or 22-metre line if the restart kick was a 22 drop-out. The non-kicking team.
    Basically you need to know that there is a sanction, and what the sanction is, and look there first!
    Law 12.1 tells you there is a sanction

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    Default Re: 22 Drop Out - Not taken properly

    Quote Originally Posted by Treadmore View Post
    Law 12.1 tells you there is a sanction
    Damnit, can’t see the wood for the trees ☹️ still blaming the new law book mind .... off to Specsavers

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    Default Re: 22 Drop Out - Not taken properly

    Actually 12.12.c says there is a sanction

    12.16 tells you that you can play advantage

    But in the incident in the OP it wasn't clear that any red player ever actually attempted a kick, it seems like there was some misunderstanding or confusion .. so for me it was handled correctly

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