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    Default Re: Wales v France - Did the ref bottle it?

    Well, he certainly didn't bottle that call...

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    Default Re: Wales v France - Did the ref bottle it?

    The other time you do see deliberate knocks is on the scrum half, as he takes the ball out of a ruck (we come full circle)
    In that situation the knock is clear and obvious , and I think we can safely say it will generally go forward.

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    Default Re: Wales v France - Did the ref bottle it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickie E View Post
    I concur with the "WTF" expressions of surprise by others.

    Even more surprising is that neither the commentators or the players seems to see anything out of the ordinary with the decision.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian_Cook View Post
    I concur with the "WTF" expressions of surprise by others.

    Even more surprising is that neither the commentators or the players seems to see anything out of the ordinary with the decision.
    In shock at the bizarre call?

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    Default Re: Wales v France - Did the ref bottle it?

    Although it appears to be a complete brain fade, I love the fact no one is gesticulating or getting in the Referee’s face, even the YC is immediately accepted. If only all (any!) of my games were like this.

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    Default Re: Wales v France - Did the ref bottle it?

    A serious error. I wonder what the advisor made of it?

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    Default Re: Wales v France - Did the ref bottle it?

    Brain Fade confirmed -by everyone, not just the ref.
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    Default Re: Wales v France - Did the ref bottle it?

    When I played I realised that very few participants knew or understood the laws of the game and, if you did, you had an advantage which could be exploited. Not much has changed it seems. The debate on whether Wales should have had a penalty try has surprised me in so much as it appears that the majority of ex-players, who express an opinion on podcasts/social media, seem to believe that was as at least a penalty and by extension probably a penalty try etc etc. However, on this site, people who referee amateur matches disagree. How did we arrive at a point in our game where perceptions are so disconnected?

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    Default Re: Wales v France - Did the ref bottle it?

    professional pundits have something oif a remit to be controversial., to stimulate "debate". So a lack of knowledge, or apparentl lack of knowledge, may be what their instructions are with regard to making the experience of watching/listening "interesting".

    yes - that cold be considered "dumbing down" or appealing to the "lowest common denominator".

    This is of course a gross generalisation - some commentators and pundits have obviously tried to be updated wrt laws and interpretations. Eddie Buttler however is a classic example fo somebody that is still working off the 1983 law book. He came out with another load of old codswallop last weekend I seem to recall (sorry - no spcifics now - cant recall exactlky., I just remember thinking WTF is EB on about this time)

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    Default Re: Wales v France - Did the ref bottle it?

    I agree with what you say Didds and Eddie Butler can obviously be dismissed as not relevant because he played in black and white when Wales were decidedly average but I'm really surprised at the divide on this and whilst understanding that, as pundits, they need to stimulate debate, they could actually do that better by agreeing with the on-field team. Lots of ex-players, Lawrence Dallaglio, David Flatman etc who I generally regard as sensible think this was absolutely stonewall.

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