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    Default Re: Double Movement and Mauls

    (Unless of course there's a knock-on advantage... )

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    Default Re: Double Movement and Mauls

    Quote Originally Posted by Decorily View Post
    I think you may have confused yourself....I see your logic but it doesn't apply here!
    Yup. Failed there! Back in my box.
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    yup. Failed there! Back in my box.
    #brainfart

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    Default Re: Double Movement and Mauls

    Appreciate the words of encouragement - thank you!

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    Default Re: Double Movement and Mauls

    I'm in my first year reffing too. My first match was U-16. I thought it was about as well as I could've done for a first timer. That was reiterated in my assessor's comments. The main point was to run a converging line instead of parallel one and take smaller steps to be constantly moving even when there's a breakdown.

    I think you are over simplifying as there are no mauls in-goal. Yes you get a Maul type scenario but there's no offsides here (correct me if I'm wrong guys). So as there's no Mauls it's just held up. Blow pretty quick - Attacking scrum 5m.

    As for the "Double movement," Remember the Ball Carrier is allowed to reach out and place the ball down as stated previously as long as he does it immediately.

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    Default Re: Double Movement and Mauls

    Welcome dt79!

    I'm a newbie too, did my 6th game today. It's a steep learning curve but definitely gets better. In case it helps to say this, I found my first 3-4 games very tough and like you, had lots of questions/things to check in the law book afterwards, but gradually things have started to click and you develop your own phrases and build confidence.

    As others have said it's helpful to chat to people after games, obviously it depends on the vibe on the day but so far I've found most people want to help. They might not see things from a referee's perspective though, so that's one of the reasons why this forum is super helpful, as well as chatting to other referees when you see them. What others on the forum have recommended is that with feedback from teams, you look for patterns over a number of games rather than take what one particular coach says to you as gospel.

    Good luck with the rest of the season!

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    Default Re: Double Movement and Mauls

    Others have answered regarding held-up, but just wanted to add that because a maul (or ruck) can’t happen in goal - the usual offside lines don’t get created either.

    General advice is to blow fairly quickly for held up. An elongated tussle at the end of which you are unsure who grounded the ball isn’t a great place to go.

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    Default Re: Double Movement and Mauls

    Quote Originally Posted by Vovonne View Post
    Welcome dt79!

    I'm a newbie too, did my 6th game today. It's a steep learning curve but definitely gets better. In case it helps to say this, I found my first 3-4 games very tough and like you, had lots of questions/things to check in the law book afterwards, but gradually things have started to click and you develop your own phrases and build confidence.
    Well done on joining the dark side - it does get better with experience.
    I'm not sure what referee coaches advise in your parts but can I suggest that the best phrases you can say when managing players is to use law phrases. Try to avoid making up your own as it will cause confusion from week to week when players have different referees. Sticking to law speak also means you're less likely to get tongue tied and the message will be clearer for all.
    Tell em it's Law 23 and smile

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    Default Re: Double Movement and Mauls

    Quote Originally Posted by menace View Post
    Well done on joining the dark side - it does get better with experience.
    I'm not sure what referee coaches advise in your parts but can I suggest that the best phrases you can say when managing players is to use law phrases. Try to avoid making up your own as it will cause confusion from week to week when players have different referees. Sticking to law speak also means you're less likely to get tongue tied and the message will be clearer for all.
    Spot on. Avoid "double movement" and the like.

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    Default Re: Double Movement and Mauls

    Agreed, but I think it's very useful to have phrases like "no hands now", "counter ruck is good", "hold there" and so on.

    An early match of mine I said "watch the offside, red" and blue heard "offside" and assumed they had advantage. So now I say "back foot", or "hold there", or "stay onside please". That sort of thing... having stock phrases for standard positions cuts down a lot of mental processing.

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