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    Default Re: Tap and Go

    Quote Originally Posted by crossref View Post
    Where was the player ? Right between the 9 and 10?
    Of course not, he'd be disrupting the flow of play. He's standing on the blind side, 2 metres behind the passing line to the winger. Clear?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich_NL View Post
    Of course not, he'd be disrupting the flow of play. He's standing on the blind side, 2 metres behind the passing line to the winger. Clear?
    So this conversation was about players running right through where the 9 was likely to pass...

    Well, that was what I was talking about

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    Clearly, you made it so.

    The conversation started about tap&go and looking for the offside call by running into players. Dickie and Pablo offered 9.7 as a potential offence for contriving to make it look as thought he opposition is offending. In #12, I said this was a reach, and asked about the 9 launching the ball at an offside player to milk the penalty - I think most people would either play on or give the penalty, but not penalise the 9.

    Then in #14 you brought up the offside player between 9 and 10 who is having a material effect on play, which was not what I was talking about.

    For clarity, what's your answer on the situation in #32?

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    Default Re: Tap and Go

    rich, Obviously if he is miles from play he is fine. But that hardly needs saying does it ?
    It's when they run through the channel that things are interesting

    This one

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    This is a great example, Phil

    I think WB made the right call

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    Default Re: Tap and Go

    So what's your call when the red scrum half milks it - play on, red scrum for accidental offside, red penalty against the offside player, or penalty against red 9 under 9.7?

    You say "he's fine" for my example (so I presume play on?), but say WB made the right call in giving the penalty where Bath 9 milks it. So whatever it is you consider hardly needs saying, needs saying

    The offside player running disruptively between the 9 and 10 isn't at all an interesting case - it's clearly a penalty offence.

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    Default Re: Tap and Go

    What do you mean by milking it

    If someone is offside and interfering with play then he is liable for a PK.

    If the scrum half points it out by throwing the ball at him, then it's still a PK.


    Brits seems to think he can be directly in the way (so interfering with play) , but because the 9 throws the ball at him, somehow its nullified and he shouldnt be penalised

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    Default Re: Tap and Go

    Quote Originally Posted by crossref View Post
    What do you mean by milking it

    If someone is offside and interfering with play then he is liable for a PK.

    If the scrum half points it out by throwing the ball at him, then it's still a PK.


    Brits seems to think he can be directly in the way (so interfering with play) , but because the 9 throws the ball at him, somehow its nullified and he shouldnt be penalised
    To me Brits ducked to avoid the passing lane and the SH deliberately passed it low to hit him

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    Quote Originally Posted by crossref View Post
    What do you mean by milking it

    If someone is offside and interfering with play then he is liable for a PK.

    If the scrum half points it out by throwing the ball at him, then it's still a PK.


    Brits seems to think he can be directly in the way (so interfering with play) , but because the 9 throws the ball at him, somehow its nullified and he shouldnt be penalised
    Why are you determined to avoid the question I'm asking?

    If they are offside and not interfering with play, but the scrumhalf chooses to make them interfere with play by targeting them, what's your call?

    "rich, Obviously if he is miles from play he is fine."

    What do you mean by fine? Play on, red scrum for accidental offside, red penalty against the offside player, or penalty against red 9 under 9.7?

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    Default Re: Tap and Go

    Quote Originally Posted by Rich_NL View Post
    Why are you determined to avoid the question I'm asking?

    If they are offside and not interfering with play, but the scrumhalf chooses to make them interfere with play by targeting them, what's your call?

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    Play on

    With the caveat that in real life this happens when the player.isnin line with a possible pass, so he very likely was actually interfering with play

    What do you think of WB call in the video

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